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SICULO wrote:
One only need read the header on this topic"Bergen/Lafayette to understand why this tragedy took place.

Jersey City should seperate itself from this section of the city
and maybe, just maybe, JC can be recognized as a civilized city as oppossed to a Dump!

We really are a tale of 2 cities when one speaks of this city.

I semi-agree. Add Greenville to the list as well. If we remove Greenville and B-L, this would be a pretty safe city of 175,000 or so.

My error,I negated to include the Greenville section as well.
Fact is, theres a certain element that will never rise above because of their own doing, proof is in the pudding, all the entitlment programs, subsidized housing, etc, etc...what else can society do???

F**** both of you. There are very good and hard working people who live in these neighborhoods. Racist CACs. Suddenly anyone from Greenville or Bergen/Lafayette is uncivilized? JC should separate itself from Downtown since it's infested with a bunch of half assed wannabe Manhattanites who do nothing but complain and whine about trivial BS.

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Some neighbors and I are trying to start a group to really put some pressure on the JCPD brass, as well as Fulop and the City to clean these places up. If you are truly interested in helping out, please let me know.

Places like Indio's, the Latin Lounge, the Music Box Cafe, and the Barge Inn are all trouble spots and contribute nothing positive to the neighborhoods.

sounds like racism... maybe you're just not too "diverse" of a person. or maybe they just don't appear to be predominantly caucasian, like all the other bars.

welcome to the hood 1ststguy! too bad you never said anything about lucky 7s or white star. they have a rowdy/loud crowd there too that pours on to the street. duh. but maybe because that there's all "caucasian" people there and those are the bars you frequent.... what a jerk. leave those bars alone, or those people will go in to your favorite "white" bar and ruin your night.

im assuming you're a lucky 7 kind of guy. beach blanket bingo night is coming up. enjoy, buddy!

Racism? To me, the Latin Lounge in name is racist. If a bar attracts a certain demographic or color of skin, then fine...but to NAME it after that predominant culture is a little "exclusive" of others, isn't it?

aoao - if I opened up a bar and named it "Club Caucasian", you wouldn't call me and my bar racist?

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Some neighbors and I are trying to start a group to really put some pressure on the JCPD brass, as well as Fulop and the City to clean these places up. If you are truly interested in helping out, please let me know.

Places like Indio's, the Latin Lounge, the Music Box Cafe, and the Barge Inn are all trouble spots and contribute nothing positive to the neighborhoods.

sounds like racism... maybe you're just not too "diverse" of a person. or maybe they just don't appear to be predominantly caucasian, like all the other bars.

welcome to the hood 1ststguy! too bad you never said anything about lucky 7s or white star. they have a rowdy/loud crowd there too that pours on to the street. duh. but maybe because that there's all "caucasian" people there and those are the bars you frequent.... what a jerk. leave those bars alone, or those people will go in to your favorite "white" bar and ruin your night.

im assuming you're a lucky 7 kind of guy. beach blanket bingo night is coming up. enjoy, buddy!

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I Love L.L., I don't know if you ever even been in there, but everytime I go and I have only been 4 or 5 times, they make you feel like family. There is a little old lady that lives upstairs that comes down every night to say hi to the bartenders. It would be worth it to just check it out, I rarely if ever see LL in the newspapers.

You obviously don't live in the neighborhood. Night after night, especially in summertime, the Latin Lounge patrons are screaming and yelling and booming music till 2 or 3 AM. Then they and the Indios cretins pile into the streets to yell and brawl with each other.

tommyc_37 wrote:
I just found out that a colleague of mine was very good friends with the girl in this couple :(

trambone wrote:
Step 1. Remove section 8.
step 2. Reduce amount of public housing offered.
3. Raise property taxes to force rent up.

Eleanor_A wrote:
Not really downtown, but Dorrian's on Washington Blvd has really good corned beer and cabbage.

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What wrong with calling it like you see it? Maybe the politicians have a problem with it, but it doesn't preclude the avg citizen to speak the truth.

Just doing my best to be politically correct so people don't jump down my throat and throw "racist" around. It's so much easier for people do call others racist rather than addressing the actual problem and admitting the truth.

I have a problem when people misuse the word racist. It gives racism a bad name and takes the strength out of the content of it's character.

When writing anonymously, readers have nothing to judge other than your words. We don?t know how great and generous and compassionate you are in real life if your language doesn?t reflect it. The following are two examples from this thread of careless and hurtful language. I?m not accusing anyone of being intentionally malicious, nor am I claiming to know the inner workings of your heart and mind. I?m suggesting that, if you aren?t malicious and don?t intend harm, thinking carefully about what you write can make sure you aren?t misunderstood.

First, @downright intentionally brought race into the discussion by saying that the people who cause trouble at the mall are ?not white nor Asian. Mostly black.? It would have been fine to note that the specific people involved in a specific incident were black (or white, or teens, or any other factual truth) ? but it crosses a line to move from talking about specifics to generalizing about an entire group. Saying ?I do not like the behavior of some black people? suggests that @downright believes there is something about being black that makes people behave badly. (That may not be what was meant but it?s what your words suggest.)

Second, several comments on this thread referred to the human beings involved in the incident(s) as ?trash? and ?garbage.? There is a long history of using language like this to justify hatred of an entire group or race. Two historic examples are blacks? status in the US as less than fully human to justify enslaving them (you can?t own a human but you can own property ? see the Supreme Court?s Dred Scott decision). And Nazi propaganda under Hitler called Jews ?vermin? as a way to justify exterminating them. I?m NOT suggesting that anyone meant AT ALL to link themselves to either Nazis or slave owners. But when you use the same rhetorical devices that they used, the people reading can think you?re doing it on purpose.

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What wrong with calling it like you see it? Maybe the politicians have a problem with it, but it doesn't preclude the avg citizen to speak the truth.

Just doing my best to be politically correct so people don't jump down my throat and throw "racist" around. It's so much easier for people do call others racist rather than addressing the actual problem and admitting the truth.