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JSalt wrote:
First of all, taxes are not "penalties."

Taxes may not be "penalties" however they are very often used to discourage certain behaviors.

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Second, why should income from investing be treated any differently than any other income?

So are you also against 401k contributions that are not taxed? I think its great to treat income differently in cases where it encourages someone to save/invest it.

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Third, I don't think we ought to be pretending like a day trader is the same thing as a venture capitalist who helps a new business get off the ground. A lot of people who trade stocks are not doing anything that genuinely benefits the economy, they're just playing horses with the market. In fact, frenzied speculation is what leads to bubbles and collapses.

Thats not me pretending anything...thats you assuming. I should have been more clear. I am not a day trader, or a VC...I probably have 5-10 transactions in my brokerage account a year..there is a difference between investing and day trading. Also in addition to stocks, the same tax is applied to mutual funds, which again has nothing to do with typical day trading. So anyone who invests in strong companies or funds that offer dividends as a way to save and earn some income are hurt by this...that was my only point.

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Fourth, while equities markets are an important part of our economy, they are not the meat of it. Most Americans are dependent on a paycheck and equities are at most an afterthought for them. Although no one wants to see the market collapse, fueling stock market growth should not be our top priority.

I never said it should be the TOP priority, however, encouraging people to save and invest should be a big priority.

I have a hard time with your statement that "most Americans see equities as an afterthought"

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http://www.sifma.org/news/faqs.html#3
How many Americans own stock today? What is their average age, worth, income, etc.?
According to Equity Ownership in America, a survey commissioned by the Association and Investment Company Institute, a total of 91.1 million individuals owned equities in early 2005. This figure accounts for an estimated 56.9 million, or half of all American households, a more than three-fold increase since the early 1980?s. In 1983, only 15.9 million households owned equities.

The typical equity owner is 51 years old, has a household income of $65,000 and household financial assets of $125,000. Most equity owners are married, employed, and college graduates.

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I will keep an eye on those who will take up spaces they are not paying for.

Since its a condo project, they will in fact be paying taxes directly, just like you do, so I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to park on the street like anyone else. Ultimately, the project is going bring businesses to Hamilton park, providing services locally, and ultimately meaning existing residents will have more services that are easily accessible without a car.

2DogDoll wrote:
I hate elitism and Billc's post hit me the wrong way. I sincerely hope that the new community doesn't become a "them-and-us" situation' and we all live together in peace and harmony.
I am sorry BillC. Enjoy your new home.
I apologize to the JCList.
Helicopters at 6:00 in the morning and an unwelcomed confrontation with a striking union worker don't make for a good morning.

NewHeights wrote:
What people fail to realize is the republican/independent party already one upped the dems by electing a moderate as their candidate.

greenville wrote:
Can Brett Schundler run for mayor again? If he could I would vote for him over any of these idiots that are in office. I'm tired of crooks, cough, I mean democrats.

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Christine16 ~ Yikes! Sorry to hear you got towed. I am not saying I don't believe you, I just would like it for my own documentation. As for the parking authority they are the ones who I received the conflicting info from which is why I was wondering if it was up to the individual discretion of the person giving a ticket/towing the car. Thanks again though.

I am Googling like crazy and am comming up empty handed.

brewster ~ I know the city did the lines because I saw them do it, which still is iffy just for the fact that they put a driveway line and "no parking" infront of a supposed driveway when it is less than 10 feet from a firehydrant! Go figure. I do think people get away with too much, at least on the block where I live.

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BTW: you weren't in Times Square on a bike wearing a hoodie around 4am today were you?

Frohwirth added that two high-end steak houses are expected to open in Jersey City within the next year, and Whole Foods Market is scouting a location.

OliveOyl wrote:
All the councilmen dont have to be fat & sloppy like the ones that work for the mayor. Some can be trim, fit and altruistic like this fine councilman.

?Taxes are up 35%, crime is still an issue. A reasonable person would ask if that poll is valid,? said Fulop. ?It was likely conducted at the Astor Bar between the hours of 11 (p.m.) and 2(a.m.) ? then it would make sense.?

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Hillary Campaign: Hillary Can "Plagiarize" but Obama Can't

By Eric Kleefeld
February 18, 2008

The Clinton campaign is busy pushing a new line of attack against Barack Obama: That he plagiarized a section of his speech this past weekend at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin dinner, from a speech given two years ago by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a prominent Obama supporter.

The Clinton campaign argues that this act of plagiarism fundamentally, along with the current arguments about taking public financing, seriously undermine Obama's candidacy. "So if you're asking the electorate to judge you on your promises and you break them, and on your rhetoric and you lift it," argued campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson on a conference call with reporters, "there are fundamental questions that are raised about that campaign and that candidacy."

Election Central asked Wolfson about comments in this morning's New York Times from Patrick himself, who said he freely exchanges speech ideas with Obama and didn't think a citation was necessary. Wolfson said the plagiarism charge still holds because listeners go in with the assumption that Obama's speeches are original, unless credit is given. "So I think it's fine that Deval Patrick said that," Wolfson said. "But what I'm concerned about is that the public has an expectation that Sen. Obama's words are his own."

When asked about Hillary Clinton "plagiarizing" her husband's words at Coretta Scott King's funeral Wolfson replied: "Sen. Clinton is not running on the strength of her rhetoric,"

Ha ha ha...

injcsince81 wrote:
McCain's campaign manager who neglected to put the requisite token blacks and women behind their candidate for the cameras should be fired.

Dwntownguy wrote:
Saint Obama pulls a "Joe Biden" and steals Gov. Deval Patrick's speech



Obama says borrowed lines not a big deal

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer




Sen. Barack Obama said Monday that he doesn't think it's a big deal that he borrowed lines from his friend Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, although he probably should have given him credit.

Patrick said during his gubernatorial campaign a year and a half ago that words matter, like "I have a dream" and "all men are created equal."

Obama used the same lines Saturday night in Wisconsin. Obama said that Patrick suggested he use the lines to respond to Hillary Rodham Clinton's suggestion that Obama is more of a talker than a doer.

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson accused Obama of plagiarizing Patrick, and that's particularly troubling since Obama's appeal is based in large part on his rhetorical skills.

"It raises questions about the premise of his candidacy," Wolfson told reporters in a conference call.

Obama, D-Ill., says that's going too far.

"Now hold on a second. Let's see ? I've written two books, wrote most of my speeches," Obama told reporters at a news conference after touring a titanium plant.

"I'm happy to give Deval credit, as I give credit to a lot people for spurring all kinds of ideas," he said. "But I think that it is fair to say that everything that we've been doing in generating excitement and the interest that people have in the election is based on the core belief in me that we need change in America."

Asked whether he wished he would have given him credit given the criticism he's facing, Obama responded: "I was on the stump, and he had suggested that we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I'm sure I should have ? didn't this time."

"I really don't think this is too big of a deal," he said. He said he's noticed Clinton using his phrases sometimes, like "it's time to turn the page" and "fired up, ready to go."

Obama focused on the economy during his trip to this economically depressed manufacturing region of Ohio. He promised he would end tax breaks for companies which move jobs overseas and use the money to give tax breaks to companies who invest in the United States.

At his news conference, Obama also said he didn't expect any immediate endorsement from John Edwards after his secret meeting with his former rival yesterday. "I think he's still mulling things over," Obama said.

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There is no left hand turn allowed onto Merseles from westbound Montgomery anymore.

Thanks for the update! So it was even worse than I thought, the turn was illegal to begin with. I haven't tried to do that turn for a very long time, I'm always heading for the tnpk. from Columbus anyway.

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Lo and Behold the city must be monitoring this website. Today around 5pm they issued several tickets along 8th. Street to buildings that had put their garbage to the curb before the allowed time of 7pm. Almost all cited buildings were larger multi-dwellings where the supers put the garbage out in bags only. (This is so they don't have to return to drag in the empty cans.) What annoys me more is that the bags will often break and leave a mess which does not get cleaned for a few days till the super returns. I have cleaned up several messes from the buildings on either side of mine. I normally don't mind doing it but they are paying these supers to do this work.

Weren't you the guy in some other thread complaining that the city shouldn't be bothering with pesky little "quality of life" issues like leash laws and trash being put out early, because there are more important issues to deal with?

Or is it just that you think the city should only enforce the laws you personally agree with, and not the ones you don't?

Just checkin' man!

So typical of many of these types of posts. " The City is so dirty", "Garbage on the streets" "Dog poop everywhere" "Why doesn't JC enforce these QOL issues" followed up by...." FU, I just got a ticket for not moving my car", FU, they are enforcing QOL issues, " FU, They issued me a warning to put my dog on a leash in a public park"......go figure!


I'm not picking on Vigilante and singling him out, but SalOn TheHill has a valid point and should hit home to a few out here!

You obviously did not read my post. I am not complaining about anything. I am simply putting the word out and actually applauding the city's action. I think it is ironic that someone who I know has complained about the dogs got a ticket for the garbage violation. Kharma?

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BTW one of the leaders of the anti-dog movement got cited today for the garbage violation. All's fair.....

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Lo and Behold the city must be monitoring this website. Today around 5pm they issued several tickets along 8th. Street to buildings that had put their garbage to the curb before the allowed time of 7pm. Almost all cited buildings were larger multi-dwellings where the supers put the garbage out in bags only. (This is so they don't have to return to drag in the empty cans.) What annoys me more is that the bags will often break and leave a mess which does not get cleaned for a few days till the super returns. I have cleaned up several messes from the buildings on either side of mine. I normally don't mind doing it but they are paying these supers to do this work.

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There is a large amount of criminology research that has shown that allowing law abiding citizens to carry either decreases crime or at worst has no effect.

It is obvious that those inclined toward crime are made less likely to do so when a potential victim may be armed.

I suspect that you have little experience with people who legally own and carry firearms. In my experience, those who do so are much more careful to avoid putting themselves in a position where they would be involved in a violent confrontation than the average person.

You are also more than a bit mistaken in terms of your faith in the police having extensive firearms training above and beyond those who have a carry license. My father was a police officer and qualifying with a handgun amounted to hitting some stationary targets a couple times a year. Some cops practice on their own time but in general they are as much all over the map as private gun owners. Nevertheless, their having firearms is a huge deterrent to criminals and most cops never have to shoot at someone. It's mostly about deterring rather than shooting, and this is even more true of private gun owners.

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Does anyone know about the city eliminating the night shift of the Parking Authority beginning on February 11th? Apparently, the police will be responsible for illegally parked cars after 8 PM.

If that's true, that would mean that nothing will be done about illegally parked cars after 8pm.