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You're right - I attached the wrong link - here is the correct one: http://newyorkyimby.com/2012/08/rem-k ... tys-111-first-street.html Also, I agree with Tommy's point about much of this retail just feeling "wrong". The Holland Tunnel presents a natural demarcation downtown where the Newport Mall could have been positioned so as to not cut Hamilton and Harsimus off from Newport. It could have been constructed on an east-west axis between Washington and Marin backing onto the tunnel, allowing Seventh and Eight Sts to run as far a Washington St allowing pedestrian flow between the waterfront and the rest of downtown. Instead, there is a ten block wall of "wrong" running down Marin - although I too like ShopRite. The reintegration of Third and Fourth Streets will do a little to remedy this, but from a purely selfish point of view, anyone going home to Hamilton Park from Newport PATH late at night will still have to schlep south all the way down to Sixth St and then turn north on the other side of mall to get home, so it doesn't do much for us. These are the problems I have in life...
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Nope - 111 First is a separate lot, with the old warehouse on the site demolished pre-crisis in 2007 in order to put up this behemoth. But as you rightly point out, one great recession and eight years later, all that the developers have to show for their investment is a dirt mound.
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Perhaps - we'll have to wait and see. It's worth mentioning that in addition to the unpleasant maintenance and property taxes that any foreign buyer would face, non-US citizens have 10% of the total sale price withheld at the time of sale as taxable income under FIRPTA if the sale is for more than $300,000 and the property has appreciated since purchase. This is a tax that most Americans - understandably - are not aware of, but it is a big disincentive for upper-middle class Europeans considering a holiday home in Florida. Many opt to buy somewhere in the Med instead to avoid FIRPTA.
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This entire discussion that wealthy Chinese buyers will snap up units in this building is based solely on the fact that a company called China Construction America is the developer?
Seems a pretty spurious premise, given that a brief look at their company website shows that the firm is involved in construction all all kinds, residential, commercial, transportation and educational all over the US and Canada. Say, maybe they can build that badly needed new DTJC public school while they're at it? Or is it already oversubscribed with Chinese students? Also, how would CCA have successful sold the entire building to prospective buyers in China when the project is still pending planning board and city council approval? Whoever claimed they had intel from family back in China is full of it. This building will fill up with the same NYC exiles and NJ natives that filled up 77 Hudson next door - Americans with a smattering of Eurotrash thrown in...
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I like it - for its symmetry if nothing else. The Alex Stark proposal looked like a cross between the beautiful (and symmetrical) Frank Gehry building at 8 Spruce Street, and the hideous monstrosity that will eventually be the URL Harborside Towers.
The amount of car traffic in that rendering is hilarious - there is scarcely any traffic in that little corner of the waterfront. And it appears that almost everyone in JC uniformly drives Mercedes S-Class, apparently...
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I agree, but it's still preferable to the derelict industrial hulk sitting there now. This is the last block before I-78 on 9th - a looooong walk from the PATH or the HBLR. Kind of surprising that this patch of land all the way back there should be next in line for development when there is still lots of spaces closer to Newark Ave and Grove Street that could be built upon. But then again, perhaps the price point is right for a developer not looking to build a $100m+ beast like 70 Columbus. In any event, good news for the businesses tucked back there in this quiet corner of DTJC, White Star, 9th & Coles, etc...
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The terms and conditions of moderation are all well and good if they are applied consistently. But in terms of personal attacks, a number of regular posters on this site are routinely pilloried - Yvonne being one particularly prominent recipient of scorn and ridicule for her views on Fulop, parking, tax abatements, among others. All of those sideswipes against her - admittedly often comically incoherent views - are left to stand. Then there is the unsettling racial undertones that have characterized the threads about the Ferguson protests, the murder of Officer Santiago, Eric Garner, Montgomery Gardens, almost EVERY discussion of gentrification happening in JC, and the list goes on... All these elements, unseemly as some of them may be, are what an open forum is all about. Moderate this board, of course, but at least do so consistently. Personally, the amusing sniping that happens on JCList is part of what keeps me coming back. Like on Wednesday night, when I totally pwned JCMan24 in our exchange over the new HP restaurant.
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Two days ago I was thoroughly enjoying a slanging match over on the thread about the new restaurant in Hamilton Park and those comments mysteriously disappeared.
The extent of the personal attacks were me calling the other guy "unintelligent" and he responding that I should seek "professional help" for my anger issues. Apparently this was sufficiently explosive invective to warrant deletion...
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Yep, that's the one. I vaguely recalled reading this once upon a time - should have just added to that original thread. Perhaps the webmaster may see fit to merge the two...
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There will be a meeting of the Hamilton Park Neighborhood Association tomorrow night at 7.30pm (Jan 8) at Cordero Elementary to discuss a prospective new restaurant to occupy the derelict townhouse on the southeast corner of Erie St & Pavonia Ave.
It's a beautiful building that has had its windows and doors boarded up for the longest time. Something of an eyesore currently, so would be great to see it turned into a new dining option. No word as yet on the cuisine proposed. Will try to make it along to the meeting. In the meantime, plans below: New Restaurant, Corner of Erie Street & Pavonia
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If nothing else, perhaps gentrification will bring the ethnic composition of JCPD a little more in sync with the residential make-up of the city. Discuss.
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Agreed. That also makes sense if - to Hero's point - the closure of this entrance allows for the Port Authority to construct the disabled access elevator that the court ordered last year. This would have to be a relatively substantial remodelling if you think about it. Right now the ticket barriers are down one flight of stairs from street level and then you walk down another flight to get to the platform level. A new ADA-compliant elevator would would have to bypass the current intermediate ticket hall descend direct to the platform level and then at the exit there would have to be a dedicated set of turnstiles to collect fares and also a ticket machine. Right now there is no space at the end of the Marin Boulevard tunnel entrance to place any of this. You could put it at street level, but I can't see where there is space on the sidewalk to accommodate it. Or the PA could be planning to put the elevator at the other end by the Grove Street plaza, but surely that would mean closing the platform and train service if they attempted to do that. Like JCMan says, this will probably be a major excavation that will take the Marin entrance out of commission for several months. And then add to that the year or so it will take to build the hotel after the elevator is in place. And there is no way the PA is going to keep that entrance open during hotel construction after that poor fella was killed by a falling tape measure at the site delivering sheet rock a couple of months back.
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Anyone interested in more up to date renderings of what the hotel will look like when built can find them here...
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Montgomery Gardens today.... ...and the Catherine Todd Apartments tomorrow. But I guess if the building is structurally sound, better to renovate it rather than tear it down and start over. Hope the seniors will enjoy living there, situated as it is at the foot of a steep hill they'll have to climb to get up to the stores around McGinley Square...
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Google this piece of shit. Drug slinging conviction in 2001, shot a nine year old and an eleven year old in a playground in 2003, was tried for murder in 2009, aggravated assault in 2011 and now another murder charge in 2014.
Bravo NJ justice system. Can't wait to see who this scumbag murders next after his inevitable acquittal...
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"Preserve Shoprite"? I wonder how many of the NY yupsters that will presumably occupy the towers above Shoprite will enjoy the cast of local characters and screaming kids constantly coming and going right outside their front door, customers abandoning shopping carts all over the vicinity before they get on the bus and employees smoking butts on the sidewalk on their break...
Hope folks are right to put their faith in increased ferry service, though I wonder how bad the PATH will get before additional service or piers are introduced in the Newport vicinity. No one moving to this development or the PAD will trek down to Paulus Hook to take the ferry, even if the price drops down to something closer to the train fare. At $12 round trip per day, I can't see ferries becoming a viable alternative to a $4.20 round trip on PATH for the masses, myself included...
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Given that they are talking 12 towers, this rendering appears to be accurate in terms of what they are planning. The image is facing west, with the mall to the right, Marin running through the center and the 6th Street Embankment extending toward the top of the image.
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For shame, after I got home last night, I couldn't convince myself to schlep back down to the Powerhouse from HP. But, from someone who did attend the meeting: My understanding is that this redevelopment plan added height and density around 8 years ago with no meeting by the owners to the public. Since then the owner has joined with the developers that gave a presentation last night. Here are some stats: They want to build 12 buildings. Each building will be around 35-40 stories. The first building will be where the pep boys corner is. It will be rentals. There will be a total of 5700 units when the project is finished. Units will be 600 - 1000 sq ft. There will be a park a little less than an acre to accommodate the nearly 6000-10,000 people that will come into the area. (that's 1/5 or 1/6th the size of Hamilton Park) As of right now there is no plan for a school. As of right now they are considering incorporating the ShopRite into one of the buildings. But they couldn't answer the question of whether the parking garage would be free for shoppers. BJ's & Pep Boys will be gone. I don't know if they mentioned BB&B.
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That is the precise point I was trying to get at - albeit clumsily. I'm asking whether the increase in daily capacity of 50,000 journeys is actually only an 25,000 increase in effective capacity given that for each NY-inbound AM journey and each NJ-outbound PM journey there will be a corresponding empty seat on the reverse commute. Is the PA promising 50,000 additional trips of effective capacity, or simply additional service that COULD accommodate 50,000 daily journeys even though at least half of that increased service will not provide any benefit to PATH passengers on the most crowded trains at the busiest times of day?
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It seems that all of the new high rise construction both downtown and in JSQ is "luxury rental". As discussed elsewhere on this board, developers are choosing (or are restricted through financing terms) to construct rentals rather than condos. We see this from the Maddox and York at Warren to URL and the Majestic II across from City Hall. If that is and continues to be the case, we might expect the glut of supply to stabilize rental prices downtown, but I would expect the impact on condo prices to be negligible since the supply of units to purchase is remaining static. In fact, if more renters move here and decide they want to buy, the influx of newcomers might even drive condo prices up as demand increases but available inventory remains unchanged. I might be wrong on that point, but in any event, I can't see the flood of new rental inventory being a depreciative factor on real estate prices in DTJC.
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Thanks for posting the link. Do you happen to know what is happening with the Silverman redevelopment of the parking lot on the corner of Erie and Ninth? According to their plans, Hamilton Square, 210 Ninth (both of which are now completed) were supposed to be joined by a redevelopment of the old St. Francis Hospital parking garage. It's still in business (a lot of neighborhood people park in there) and I'm wondering whether this element has been dropped from their plans...?
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I'm skeptical over how much of a difference the additional 50,000 capacity will actually make. According to PATH ridership numbers for the first half of 2014, average weekday ridership is already almost 249,000. Increasing capacity by a further 20%, even if enacted today, would still not accommodate all the people who are already left on the platform in the morning at the Newport stop when the doors close on the trains headed to 33rd St. Add to this the 6,000 units already in development and the untold thousands more proposed and I fear that the enhancements are already inadequate to service the current commuting population of JC, let alone the thousands more to come in the next five years. Also, the PA's 50,000 number does not reflect the uneven distribution of ridership. Adding more frequency of service to virtually empty trains heading from WTC to HOB in the morning may "add capacity" but it is capacity where it is not needed and does nothing to reduce the congestion on the NYC-bound trains heading in from JC. How much of this 50,000 number will have a tangible benefit on the most crowded trains at the busiest times of the day? It might be more appropriate to think of it as a 20% increase so that for every five persons on a crowded 8.30am train to WTC today, tomorrow there will be a room for a hypothetical sixth person. Assuming you might get 70 people in a car (35 seated, 35 standing) and multiply that by ten cars on the NWK-WTC line, you are talking about increased capacity for 140 people per train. Spread the capacity out along the line and that is just an additional 28 passengers accommodated per train at NWK, HAR, JSQ, GRV and EPL. Not a particularly scientific method obviously, and I appreciate all efforts to improve the PATH system, but you begin to see that 50,000 new seats boils down to a not-so impressive number when you quantify it in terms of individual passenger experience during rush hour.
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The proposals give a vague sense that the existing retail will be replaced:
Replacement of one story stand-alone retail structures with multi-use, multi- story structures situated on new City Blocks with ground floor retail and new planned public thoroughfares, public parks, and plaza spaces. I would say that replacement retail is essential given that getting rid of BJ's and ShopRite would leave only A&P, Key Food and PathMark as the downtown supermarket options. And even if the mythical Whole Foods ever gets built, are they going to accept the EBT cards that a large proportion of the ShopRite customer base relies on? As for the PATH, none of these developers give a damn about the already chronic rush-hour overcrowding situation. And I think City Hall has already conceded that nothing can be done - or will be done by the Port Authority - to increase PATH capacity beyond signal upgrades to allow trains to run directly behind one another. I'll wager that when it comes to a vote the city council will approve this development with a shrug of the shoulders, lamenting that it will dramatically compound existing congestion on the PATH, but since nothing can be done about that, they'll argue we may as well approve it with a hefty tax-abatement and collect the PILOT funds and let the NYC commuters just muddle through somehow. That's the inspired municipal leadership we've come to expect in this town, anyway.
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There is a meeting tonight to discuss the proposed high-rises that would occupy the whole of Metro Plaza downtown, from Washington to Marin east to west and from Second St to Sixth Street south to north.
Looks like they are proposing six skyscrapers that will require the demolition of Shoprite, BJ's, Bed Bath & Beyond and Pepboys, at least that is how the plans appear. Info about tonight's meeting here. Info about the proposed development here. Some pictures of how it may look when/if finished here.
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Leaving Obama's race out of the equation - if possible - lets consider the difference in the economy for average folks like us between January 09 and today: unemployment down to 5.8%, record stock market, 30yr fixed mortgage in the 4-4.5% range. He's no Lincoln, but life in is generally better in pure economic terms now than it was before his term began.
Do we owe him, or any president any gratitude for economic events? Absolutely not. No politician or president can marshal global economic forces through his policies. Bill Clinton's tax increases did not create the prosperity of the 1990s. The only thing POTUS can do is engender a spirit of optimism. Reagan was an economic disaster, but he presided over the recovery from stagflation. His optimism convinced the nation that it was morning in America. Obama's big failure has been to not sell the message of recovery. Everyone feels that things have barely got better because he has failed to convince us. In the New York metro area, the very place where things have improved the most since the crash, the area where he should have the most support, the citizenry is overwhelmingly down on him. He hasn't projected his achievements at all. Like a big brash American would. In fact, his humility reminds me of my days in Kenya...
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I agree, the idea of an extension to EWR is/was a terrible prospect for JC residents. Handy the half dozen times a year that we are heading to the airport but absolutely making our commutes a misery with New Yorkers and tourists likely to overrun the trains the other 360 days of the year.
The fact that Fulop supported the notion when it would be a boon to non residents at the expense of JCitizens is quite insulting imo... Let's hope this is the end to the debacle.
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Just like most of the shitbirds we read about on this site, turns out one of these oxygen thieves?made the news for breaking into a church to get high back in 2010. A church on beautiful Ocean Avenue, no less. He was, of course, released without charge by the JCPD (sigh)
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A makeshift roadblock in the dead of night on a deserted highway. You pull over. A figure in a pair of jeans and a gold chain emerges from the gloom...
That is some extremely creepy, horror movie shit. They have one guy on DWI and the other on "interfering with an investigation" but clearly this was the premeditated pretense for a much more serious crime. A robbery at least, a carjacking maybe, or perhaps something even more sinister. Innocent until proven guilty obviously, but I wonder what powers the police have to prosecute on the seemingly evident and thought out intent (they brought cones, people!) to commit a more serious crime...? The whole matter is disturbing all round...
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Any information out there on this hotel? I can't see anything online about it. Maybe Burke's can be incorporated as the hotel bar:
The management of the Holland Gardens Hotel is delighted to present: Burke's Bar. An age-old Jersey City institution, Burke's is predominantly patronized by authentic local "characters" of no fixed abode. While away a day enjoying the legendary Burke's hospitality as your fellow patrons periodically panhandle on the toll plaza in order to buy that next delicious 24oz Bud Light tall boy. And be sure to stay for the public urination competition, nightly from 11pm. Open daily, 5pm til late.
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