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Re: Forget Taqueria!
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Because this is the epitome of cool, Cato???

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Posted on: 2009/6/18 20:40
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Pedestrian down at Marin and Montgomery
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Just walked by - a man was being wheeled into an ambulance and the intersection was full of police and EMS. A young woman/girl was sitting behind the wheel of her car, stopped in the crosswalk crossing Montgomery on the west side of Marin. She had already cleared the intersection, so she must have been going at a pretty good clip. Seems as though the pedestrian was in the crosswalk, based on where the car was stopped.

I don't know the condition of the victim, but certainly hope he wasn't seriously injured. Marin Blvd. is insane the entire length of the road.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 20:23
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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In the document I posted earlier, I found this:

RECALL DRIVE BEGINS
A recall committee of at least three registered voters forms to initiate proceedings under the law. The recall drive
may not commence before the 50th day preceding the completion of the elected official?s first year of the current
term in office.

They are sworn in the first or second of July, so I guess it'd be 50 days prior to then in 2010. This also says the drive can't begin - meaning the committee can't be formed and signatures can't be gathered - until then.

Also:

SIGNATURE COLLECTION EFFORT
Upon approval of the petition, the recall committee and registered voters in the jurisdiction of the recall
election may solicit signatures of other registered voters in that jurisdiction. Specific requirements on the
method of soliciting signatures are listed in the law. The recall effort is limited to 320 days for a Governor or
160 days for other elected officials from the date of the notice of intention. The petition requires the
signatures of 25 % of the registered voters in the jurisdiction, as of the last general election.

It's registered voters, not people who actually voted. I still think targeting ward representatives would be easier than trying to get 25,000 to 30,000 citywide signatures.

Here is the link to the recall procedures:

http://www.joemustgo.net/Assets/elect ... truction-sheet-123108.pdf

Posted on: 2009/6/18 16:26
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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Yvonne - do you know if the year applies to how long you have to wait to have a recall election or if you can't initiate the process at all for one year? Meaning - could you file the petition and start gathering signatures prior to one year and just wait for the election so it's more than one year?

Posted on: 2009/6/18 15:54
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Re: Recall: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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25% is just the threshold to force a recall election. You'd still need to win the election. But as I said - if they don't have endless money to throw around, the playing field is level. I can't imagine a more likely target than Gaughan. Who would rise up to defend him if they weren't getting paid to do so? He slept through a good chunk of the meeting last night and he (and Vega) were completely impervious to anything that was said.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 15:19
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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Tactically, I'd say it's as possible as it's ever going to be. The war chests were just cleaned out to buy the last election, so they'd be vulnerable. If the revaluation comes this year and there is something else (like contributions from Fisher to buy the sweetened abatement) that can be thrown in, they'd really have to scramble to amass a defense fund.

You need signatures from 25% of the registered voters, so unfortunately going after an at-large council member like Vega, Flood or Brennan (or Healy himself) might be too great a task - depends on how great the reval outrage is. But picking off a Gaughan or a Sottolano would conceivably be a much lighter lift if you only have to get 25% of the ward to sign the petition.

According to Wikipedia there have only been twelve successful recalls nationwide. But one was the mayor and two council members of River Vale, NJ in 1994.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 14:59
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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Can a Mayor and members of the City Council be recalled..


Absolutely.

Although according to Wikipedia there have only been twelve successful recalls (and two unsuccessful), one successful one was the 1994 recall of the mayor of River Vale, NJ and two council members.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 14:37
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Re: What would you do with the Powerhouse???
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If Jersey City were to be covered by well-conceived mural, our city could become a real cultural destination.


I love this idea! We could cover the city with a mural. Maybe the mural could be of San Francisco or Seattle - places with stunning natural beauty and cultural attractions... We could also put up cardboard figures of the politicians we wish we had. Maybe we'd have holograms of the new PATH cars and longer trains. The possibilities are endless!!

Posted on: 2009/6/18 14:07
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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Simple 2 pager on the process

Seriously - tonight's Crystal Pointe vote would be tremendous ammo. If you can tie abatement votes to campaign contributions from the developer, in the midst of epic budgetary constraints and with a revaluation storm brewing.... if it could ever happen, you couldn't draw up a more fertile environment.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 4:41
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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I saw most of the PPG "discussion" and it was a joke. Most of these people are entrenched and have to make no effort to get re-elected. It is a machine and a sad one at that. Fulop seems to be the only one with the capacity to step back from any issue and really see all sides. The rest of them are totally reactionary and I would not be shocked if they were taking pay-offs. I see why Fulop is disliked by other "factions" in this city. He is a thousand times smarter than them.


I don't disagree with you - just that the issue wasn't as cut and dried as the abatement revision for Crystal Pointe. You could at least understand the frustration residents expressed over the fact that so much time has passed and they still had nothing to show for it. (Although it was funny how many of the people who stood up in favor weren't residents of the area covered by the settlement.)

As for putting up with these clowns for the next four years - when the revaluation comes and people finally wake up to what has happened while they were blissfully sleeping.... recall?

Posted on: 2009/6/18 4:31
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Re: Most of the City Council is an Embarassment
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You know - I could see both sides on the PPG settlement. While I would have voted against it, you could make a plausible case for voting for it. I felt bad for Viola - she was in a tough spot. You're dead on though about Fulop - he made such a concise, empassioned case against the settlement.

The Crystal Pointe giveaway was an entirely different issue. There is no defense for giving away tax money to a developer so he can hit his target investment hurdles. Unfortunately, there were only 50 to 60 people left by the time the ordinance was introduced at some point around 10:30. About 20 people stood up and spoke fervently against. In the end though, the rubber stamps won - 6 to 3.

It will be interesting to see, if/when the information is ever available, who benefited from Fisher campaign contributions among the yes votes.

Posted on: 2009/6/18 4:14
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Re: Swiped by Car While Riding Bike on Pacific Avenue
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The whole "I grew up here so let me tell you how it is" philosophy gets so old - and in this case I'd argue it works against you, Heights. Because you haven't lived anywhere else, you can't fully appreciate just how completely awful certain behaviors are here. Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

So with your theroy we should accept all types of behavior.


Quite the opposite. Like you, I find many things around here to be in dire need of improvement. I just don't accept the rationale that "you aren't from here so you either a) don't understand, or b) don't count" to be even more backward than the behavior you so frequently deplore.

It is the people who have lived elsewhere - who have seen people drive civilly, keep their streets clean, keep their kids out of trouble, get involved in their communities, elect people who don't belong in prisons - who have the experience to maybe bring about some of the needed change you cry out for.

Posted on: 2009/6/17 18:09
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Re: where is the JCLIST Tax Abatement Revolt?
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That's why you have to keep in mind the other 5 ward council member canidates you don't vote for. Because once they are elected even though they do not represent your ward they still vote on all issues and agendas regarding the whole of Jersey City, including those that affect the ward that you live in.


Agreed - that's why a "we're all in this together" mentality works best. If enough people from each of the six wards show up to keep their specific council representative honest, there's a better chance of ending up with a positive outcome. (Assuming you are against the enhanced abatement.)

I'll be there tonight. Trying to figure out how to bring all the dead voters who are still registered voters with me.

Posted on: 2009/6/17 17:08
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Re: Swiped by Car While Riding Bike on Pacific Avenue
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The whole "I grew up here so let me tell you how it is" philosophy gets so old - and in this case I'd argue it works against you, Heights. Because you haven't lived anywhere else, you can't fully appreciate just how completely awful certain behaviors are here. Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

Posted on: 2009/6/17 14:56
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Re: where is the JCLIST Tax Abatement Revolt?
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Webmaster: This thread and the"City Council to Vote Tonight on Reducing Waterfront Tax Abatement" thread should be merged.

Right on Dan! EVERYONE who pays taxes or has an interest in the future of the city should be at the meeting tonight and be heard! Just because the mayor and his rubber stamps would like to govern like this is Haiti doesn't mean we have to acquiesce.

Posted on: 2009/6/17 14:42
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Re: City Council to Vote Tonight on Reducing Waterfront Tax Abatement
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Greenville Councilman Michael Sottolano and City Council President Mariano Vega, who serves on the Tax Abatement Committee, argued that if the project doesn't go forward it could affect the value of a city-owned site directly across from it.


Talk about grasping at straws - this isn't a matter of whether or not the "project will go forward" (which is the point of abatements, right - to spur development.) The project has been developed. At some point, either the current developer or the next owner will lower the prices to the point that the market will accept. The Sottolano/Vega argument is that YOU should be subsidizing the difference - not in an attempt to "continue growing the development in our city" as Mr. Vega awkwardly states, but rather to make the developer whole and bail him out of his very aggressive and ill-timed bet.

Given the sad state the city's finances are in and the reality that the bill for all the city's past mismanagement is coming due in the form of a revaluation, ask yourself this: Do we really need to be giving our money to a Miami-based developer with no ties to the community so that he can remain profitable on his bad business decision?

Tonight's city council meeting should be interesting - a chance to see first hand how the council is aligned and who's interest they serve. For all the times that people moan about the status quo and wonder what can be done to make a difference, I say: Go to the meeting tonight. Make yourself heard. Shame the members of council who are in the developer's pocket into DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH YOUR MONEY!!!!!! It's not their money and they need to be reminded frequently who they serve and how they should represent our interests.

Posted on: 2009/6/17 14:33
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Re: Pedestrians have the right of way. NOT in Jersey City.
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Then again, sometimes the pedestrian deserves it. I mean - look at that dress!

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Posted on: 2009/6/16 18:24
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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In addition to the obvious flaws in such a system and its appeal to the fear-based society bred of the past decade, has anyone asked who gets to pay for this? When do we get to say "enough is enough"???? I thought the end of Cheney would have been the end of this nonsense.

Why should the PA continue to bloat its security/police payroll to titillate the paranoid terror fetishists among us?? Put the money into making the G-Damned train run and put more trains into service rather than giving us an amateur show that accomplishes little, if anything.

Posted on: 2009/6/12 17:31
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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Yeah, that's all well and good, but what is really accomplished? Don't you think that if terrorists were lurking among us, looking for any and every opportunity to turn NYC and its environs into Beirut of the '80s something would have happened by now? Of course we need to be vigilant in a common sense sort of way, but trying to prevent recurrance of the last attack is the same failed strategy that has been pursued in the past. For all of the hysteria, there just aren't people turning themselves into human bombs and driving into buildings or blowing up shopping malls - either one of which is imminently doable and completely unstoppable given current security measures.

Atlantic had a great story on how TSA fails to prevent even obvious violations in many circumstances - and that's in a very controlled environment where people pass through metal detectors and scanners single file at the discretion of the TSA. Do you really think the subways, PATH, Penn Station, et al can operate like that? Of course not.

Alan raises a good secondary point - the system is only as safe as all of the stations feeding into it as well. I can get on a train in Mountain Station NJ, east of South Orange, where there is no attendant. My two suitcases and I will arrive in Hoboken 30 minutes later in the middle of morning rush hour.

Sadly, to me at least, the legacy of the WTC attack won't be that we are safer and have learned some lesson because we can never be "safe." That's just the way life is. No, the real legacy will be that fear is the most effective tool available to people who want to control you to achieve their objectives.

Posted on: 2009/6/11 15:19
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Re: Gulls Cove info, any residents here?
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I think stainless steel was standard - you just got a better brand. The Bosch washer/dryer was the biggest part of the appliance upgrade package. I've heard the Eurotech were very problematic.

Our electric bill has been similar to Chester's, but I guess our gas/sewer/water bill reflects the fact that we use the oven for additional storage ...

Posted on: 2009/6/11 14:55
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Re: Gulls Cove info, any residents here?
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The upgrade packages were focused on floors, cabinets and appliances. For instance - Package A had light floors and cabinetry. Package B had dark and higher end appliances. We, as did several other people, kind of mixed and matched using some of B and the things from A that we liked better.

Although we weren't expecting to pay gas/water/sewage, it hasn't been bad at all. We have a 2br and have paid an average of $28 per month.

Feel free to pm me if you have more questions.

Posted on: 2009/6/11 13:00
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Re: Absolutely legit, "stretching the rules," or downright illegal?
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Completely curious - no agenda - I ask because I'd like to understand these issues better: How does one "see numerous instances of people acting in this capacity without certificates or possessing certificates issued in the names of other individuals"? Is there a challenger of challengers? Is that a neutral (i.e. board of elections appointed) function or do campaigns send someone around to challenge the challengers of their opponents? If you "saw (sic) numerous instances" that would indicate to me that you were one of the "challengers of challengers." How does that work? How was your experience?

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.... Another common violation observed during the recent municipal election cycle was the presence of unauthorized challengers in polling places without valid written permits issued by the county board of elections. See NJSA 19:7-1 et. seq. I was quite surprised to see numerous instances of people acting in this capacity without certificates or possessing certificates issued in the names of other individuals.

All the best.

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Posted on: 2009/6/10 15:58
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Re: Fulop proposes new NJ Turnpike extension to ease Holland Tunnel traffic now cutting through Down
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And the city will raise some much needed extra cash in the process. Maybe even enough that it can stop the illegal booting!

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How about just making it a giant pain for anyone to use the residential streets in downtown Jersey City (focusing on VVP and Harsimus/Hamilton) for anything except going to/from home? Add more stop signs on Jersey and Erie, and then enforce them (and all others in the neighborhoods) so vigorously that practically everyone driving "Jersey style" through them gets a ticket! Throw in 20 mph speed limits on all except the main arterial streets, and people will stop cutting through downtown to hit the turnpike in no time.

Posted on: 2009/6/8 21:43
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Re: City Council on: Revising tax abatement , revising car booting rules & controling animal control
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Isn't the city doubly screwing itself by sweetening the abatement? First, you extend the terms and cut the initial tax rates and lose tax money there. But I think we can all see that the developer is going to have to reduce prices further given the realities of the current market, even with the enhanced abatement terms.

So - lower sales prices mean that the valuation on which the abated rate is applied is lower as well, meaning both parts of the equation are lower. How do those seven council members not see that - or do they and not care? I, for one, will be verrrry curious to hear their remarks when the revaluation is introduced at some council meeting in the not too distant future.

The other thing I don't get is why does (or should) the city care if the developer goes under? Someone will buy the project at a discounted price out of bankruptcy and price the remaining condos based on their reduced economics, not the bloated costs of the developer. The building will sell regardless of who owns the project. Why should the city be bailing out overly aggressive developers?

Posted on: 2009/6/8 17:52
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Re: Top 10 Beer lists: In anticipation of Zeppelin Hall (beer garden)
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I wouldn't want to live in the units above this...


Unfortunately, we are living above this. We were told that this outdoor seating area was going to be a common yard with a few grills. We are trying to get out of the lease now and will take the management company to court if need be, and will be seeking full security return and moving costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if debris gets tossed out the windows by some pissed off residents.


At least you are renting and you don't own it - you'd think in the current environment you might be able to squeeze something out of the management company.

Separately, how full is your building? I live in Gull's Cove and can't tell if there is much activity over there.

Posted on: 2009/6/8 17:36
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Re: Top 10 Beer lists: In anticipation of Zeppelin Hall (beer garden)
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Anyone know what the real holdup is? I can't help wondering if the hoops they have to jump through for a liquor license and pass inspections are very high and very small...

Posted on: 2009/6/8 14:03
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Re: Fulop proposes new NJ Turnpike extension to ease Holland Tunnel traffic now cutting through Down
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One possible idea is to not allow right turns from Erie Street into the tunnel from 7:00 am to 9:00 am. Commuters using Erie would have to circle the block making it less convenient.


Matt raises a good point which is related to something I've wondered: how many people living downtown regularly drive into Manhattan during rush hour? I never do. Not claiming that my experience is representative, but downtown has so many mass transit options - especially relative to other parts of JC - I can't imagine that a large number of downtown people are driving in regularly. Unless I'm wrong about that, I like an idea that restricts downtown access to the tunnel during morning rush hours.

Posted on: 2009/6/8 13:56
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Re: Up to 30% of all properties have 'illegal' apts -- Healy wants to put them on tax rolls
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I like the idea around beefing up the census counters - completely different approach to a long-time problem. Seems to me like an innovative idea that not only could fill big holes in the budget but doesn't cost anything. Can't remember the last time something like that was presented.

Coincidentally, there was a story on NPR yesterday that talked about the difficulty illegal apartments pose for census takers in NYC.

Census: The Hard Task of Counting New Yorkers

Posted on: 2009/6/5 15:55
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Re: DJC Stories That Make Me Laugh Or Leave Me Speechless
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A few weeks ago, the people of Jersey City elected Jerramiah Healy as their Mayor.

I kid you not.


We have a winner!!

Posted on: 2009/6/4 21:01
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Re: RUNNING ON THE WATERFRONT
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It seems I can't get to LSP without walking many miles... Can anyone share information on public transit to the park? It can't be that everyone drives there, but I haven't found a bus with service direct to the park, nor have I found light rail that doesn't require miles of walking before and after, which renders it almost useless. Thanks.


The light rail stop called "Liberty State Park" gets you to within probably 200 yards (or less) from the beginning of the running paths. Since the likely purpose of your running is exercise-based, I'd think that type of distance wouldn't be objectionable.

MrGrieves - so you're the one! I run in the park at least 5 days a week, almost always in the mornings and until recently when the weather got nicer, would only see one or two other people.

Is the Liberty Walk crowded? Yes - in the middle of weekend days. Weekend mornings up until 10 or so, evenings after 7-ish and weekdays throughout the day you shouldn't have any problems. Running in the park is such a treat - the park itself is a gem. It shocks me (and at the same time gives me perverse pleasure) how consistently empty the place is.

Posted on: 2009/6/3 15:26
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