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Re: RALLY/PROTEST WEDNESDAY, 29TH CITY HALL AT 9:00AM
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EM - I agree that this should be focused on what is in front of us, but let's be clear here: Healy IS on tape as being part of this.

If he was smart enough to send out his lapdogs to do his bidding and leave the room for 30 seconds while money actually changed hands, so be it. But look at what Vega had in his coffers right before election (~ $125,000) and look at what Healy had ($3 million.) You really think Healy is clean?

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um TWO of the people ran AGAINST healy. lets not get the healy bashing to cloud the overall corruption. far as i've read he's not being indicted. yes i do know that he surrounds himself w/ those that are being brought down, but if you're going for a slogan, bashing healy is a cop out and part of your overall agenda. we know, the majority of you hate healy. this is much bigger than that. where's your disdain for the a##HOLES actually on tape taking bribes? where's your outrage for them?

Posted on: 2009/7/27 20:58
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Re: RALLY/PROTEST WEDNESDAY, 29TH CITY HALL AT 9:00AM
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Sounds fantastic! Who is organizing?

Posted on: 2009/7/27 18:02
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Re: Jersey City Council President Vega, charged in corruption sting, says he won't resign
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+1 Covetalker. And to expand slightly - these are federal allegations with taped conversations. This isn't one disgruntled local agency going after another. Although it is possible there is an explanation as to how Mr. Vega might not have broken a law, his mere presence in that conversation (as well as JC Offical #4's in another conversation) has rendered them unfit for office. There is no more basic breech of the public's trust.

Of utmost importance: if at all possible - ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 29 AT 10 AM. Let Mr. Vega know what you think. Whether or not you agree with the call for his resignation. Be heard.

Posted on: 2009/7/27 17:55
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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Sorry to mess with the acoustics of this echo chamber but I think more people than you realize are going to be able to see through this political attack.


Political attack? Whatever motivated the timing and nature of the charges is beside the point. Mr. Vega et al. TOOK THE MONEY. No amount of martyrdom can change that fact. Healy was in the room and acknowledged the "mutually beneficial" nature of what was happening - he's admitted it. We shall see what that means, but I wouldn't exactly hold him up as clean here.

Gnome: you may come here to vent. I'll be at the council meeting.

Posted on: 2009/7/26 5:19
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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Amen. It is a gift we've been given and it's an opportunity to step up and put words to action. It also could be a do-over, a chance to correct a horrible mistake that was made in May. You don't get that chance often in life - let's not squander it. If you can, attend the council meeting. Encourage friends and neighbors to attend. Make sure the Healy 8 know their are consequences for their actions.

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I think the people of JC need to get angry and they need to get loud, like people did in Hoboken earlier today. If you can spare the time at all, I encourage you to go to the city council meeting Wednesday and make your feelings known. Residents bear a chunk of the blame in this, too. For too long, we've failed to hold our elected officials accountable, and they've become complacent in thinking they can get away with just about anything. We also returned these cretins to office. Yes, we. Sure, it's easy to say none of us voted for Healy's sorry ticket - but did any of us work to get out the vote or register people? What happened last week is a gift that shouldn't be squandered. We really need to capitalize on the momentum from the media spotlight and the shift in public sentiment for productive change - whether it's a recall effort or passage of tougher anti-graft laws. This is where I'm really looking to Mr. Fulop and Mr. Levin to step up and provide some leadership and organization. Whatever ideas you guys have, I think you'll find a much more receptive public and more than a handful of citizens willing to invest time and energy.

Posted on: 2009/7/26 4:25
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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And you wouldn't have a recall election until November 2010, at the earliest.

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On the issue of a recall election, you would need to get signatures that equal 25% of the total number of registered voters.

Posted on: 2009/7/25 21:58
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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Better yet if all outraged JC citizens showed up at the council meeting next Wed to voice their outrage and to support Fulop's recommendation that Vega resign.

Meeting is at City Hall at 10am (summer hours). To speak you must contact the City Clerk the day before to have your name placed on the list.


another + 1,000. Seriously - the time of the meeting is awfully difficult for most, but if there is any way you can make it.... DO!!!

Posted on: 2009/7/25 20:02
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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Just noticed the "National Night Out Against Crime" banner hanging in front of City Hall. It's August 4th. Perfect opportunity for all fed up with these swine to march in front.


this is a fantastic idea.


+ 1,000!

Posted on: 2009/7/25 19:58
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Re: Councilman Fulop Press Release July 24
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Anyone else notice Healy has co-opted "Open and Honest Government" in his written statements yesterday and today? Setting aside the absurdity of the statement for a moment, does he really think he can adopt the Fulop mantra and suddenly, magically it will apply to him? What's next - the haircut?

Posted on: 2009/7/24 23:35
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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Actually, it's 25% of registered voters as of the last election, which is in the vicinity of 115,000. (Ianmac will correct me if I'm off, hopefully) So you'd need somewhere around 28,000 to 29,000 signatures.

The other issue is timing. A recall can't begin until the official is 50 days away from completing the first year of their current term. That doesn't happen until May 11 of next year.

I don't think the number of signatures needed is prohibitive. This isn't an indirect issue that needs explaining like pay to play. This is direct. The mayor and his team are on the take. People get that. If you put a little money behind the effort and do it professionally, it is imminently achievable. It just can't happen for another 10 months.

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30,657 people voted though, right? Found that in an old thread can anyone confirm?

So we need 7,665 signatures for a recall election.


Ha ha ha ha, they got you just like they fooled Fulop!! It works every time!

It's REGISTERED VOTERS, not who actually voted, which means if only 50% of registrants voted (that's what I recall), you need to get signatures of 50% of all people who actually voted. Pretty steep hill. In California it takes 12% of the number of votes cast in the previous elections.

Posted on: 2009/7/24 16:41
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Re: Several local politicians arrested on corruption charges
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King's lawyer was quoted today saying that they will continue to pursue their case.

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What will Judge Gallipoli do with Jimmy King's suit of Nidia Lopez? He needs a plaintiff, and King priorities have quite shifted...

Posted on: 2009/7/24 6:06
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Re: Councilwoman Elect Lopez a Florida Resident?
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Lets not let this get lost in the euphoria of today's events. She is as guilty as anyone of those arrested today.

Posted on: 2009/7/23 22:18
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Re: All Points West 2009 Festival linuep - Guess the lineup & WIN TICKETS!
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That's great - thanks! (I worded my earlier posting poorly - I certainly would sell mine for less than face as well.)

Posted on: 2009/7/23 13:32
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Re: Councilwoman Elect Lopez a Florida Resident?
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Will Nidia be arrested today too???

Posted on: 2009/7/23 13:16
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Re: N.J. to focus on supermarkets in poorer communities
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Not troll - uninformed maybe. And weirdly defensive of something I can't imagine you have a personal stake in.

There is no comparison between the A&P and a Whole Foods. Produce, whether organic or not, is vastly inferior in quality and variety at A&P. WF doesn't carry items with partially hydrogenated fats. The difference between their bakeries and prepared meals sections is similar to the difference between a Malibu and a BMW. And that's fine - lots of people are happy driving a Malibu and it works for them. Many people prefer a BMW and have the means to pay for it. Equally good for them. (For the record, I don't drive a BMW or anything in that price category. Not my thing. But I don't feel the need to denigrate the people who do.)

Jealousy is part of the human condition - I know. But it seems there is a disproportionately large segment of JC that has that "it's good enough for me it should be good enough for everybody else" mentality - why? Why does someone's desire to not eat carcinogens on their fruit threaten you so much? Why does it spark such a sharp reaction? What is it to you? How are you affected? Because it is posted on here? Don't read it if it bothers you that much.

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Oh and no I dont have a "nice" car . I drive a practicle car that gets me from point A to point B. Id say another 2 minutes till I get called a troll because I hurt some yuppies feelings.

Posted on: 2009/7/22 19:01
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Re: N.J. to focus on supermarkets in poorer communities
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You could have said the same thing about Tribeca a couple of years ago. It'll change - be patient. Nothing big is getting done in the current environment that wasn't already on the drawing board.

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All for that, but how about a nice one downtown?!? Big bucks to live here but shitty supermarkets.

Posted on: 2009/7/22 18:06
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Re: Councilwoman Elect Lopez a Florida Resident?
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Still waiting for that bus. Man, the wheels of justice turn sl-o-o-o-o-wly....

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She'll be under the bus by the time Atomic Wings opens, or my name isn't Bret "The Hit Man" Schundler.

Posted on: 2009/7/22 15:53
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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In fact, wub, I did. I lived in Jackson Heights (that's in Queens) in the 90s (through the second half of Dinkins and well into Giuliani) and watched it deteriorate rapidly. What was once an Irish/Jewish professional enclave quickly became the landing point for drug importation and the immigration of their tradesmen. I happened to live on a "safe" block, although a kid did get shot in front of my building one night. Just two blocks away? A nightly scene out of Scarface. The editor of el Diario was assassinated in a diner on Roosevelt Ave. four blocks away. Two Colombian gangs had a shoot out in a bar five blocks away that made the national news - six people were killed and dozens injured; it happened in broad daylight.

Crime skyrocketed - not just drugs and related violence, but prostitution as well. Thirteen, fourteen year-old girls standing on corners at all hours of the night near the subway station when just a few years before then it was completely quiet. Not just in Jackson Heights, but in neighboring Corona and Elmhurst. All the drug dealers and hookers you mention that were in NYC in the 80s were in Times Square. They are the ones who moved to my neighborhood in the 90s. While a clean, safe and business-friendly Times Square/midtown is good for tourism and the local economy, sweeping the problems under the rug isn't fixing them. It is you, little wibbish, who doesn't know the first thing you are talking about.

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you seem so out of touch with everything, were you around during the 80s with hookers, drugs, homeless and graffiti all over the place in broad daylight? if you think nyc improved in the 90s because the whole country did and not as a result of hardline active enforcement by the nypd under giuliani, i dont know what else to say to you, other than you are delusional.

And what are you talking about again, with the comment regarding moving the unwanted to queens/brooklyn. I lived in queens at the time, and visited brooklyn often. The area is the same, the good parts like forest hills, bayside, freshmeadow remained very good, while the bad parts such as jamaica/ozone park remained the same. There is no big transformation, unless you count the gentrification in parts of brooklyn.

Seriously get a clue....

Posted on: 2009/7/22 15:23
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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The wiki article on this is pretty interesting and shows both sides: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixing_Broken_Windows


I don't dismiss the Broken Windows theory completely. I just think that it gets a disproportionate share of the credit for what happened in NYC in the 90s.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 19:57
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Laughable. If Healy (or any mayor) did to Jersey City what Giulaini did to NY, he'd be shot. Wow - Rudy cleaned up Times Square and various rougher sections of Manhattan and essentially moved it to Queens and Brooklyn. Can you imagine the posts on this site if a JC mayor forced any undesirable activity out of downtown and it all showed up a short while later in the Heights?

Look it up Wibbit - crime went down nationally and if you look at NYC as a whole and not just the disneyfied midtown/times square area, the story wasn't unusual relative to the rest of the nation.

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This is just flat out false. Guiliani's (and his police heads) success in cleaning up nyc is undeniable, nyc will not be what it is today without his action. For all his faults and the shameful 9/11 plugs in the 08 election, Guiliani's contribution to cleanup nyc is historical, even more amazing is the fast pace it is accomplished.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 17:03
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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C'mon - Ian wasn't advocating abortion as a solution to crime today. He was repeating a very well-made point from Freakonomics.

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Ok, well abortion is only going to help us 18-20 years from now. A petty arrest on someone with outstanding warrants can be efeective NOW! Don't be ridiculous!


Saabconv - look at the nation as a whole during the 90s. Guiliani didn't do anything that wasn't accomplished in most other major cities during the (gasp) Clinton administration. (You remember Clinton, right? The best republican president since Reagan.) The 90s were also a period of largely unbridled economic expansion - just like the past six years. Now that the economy has been in the tank for a while, expect things like robberies to go up. Not just here, but most other places as well.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 16:03
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Re: APW Replacement?
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I bought 2 extra VIP passes for Friday (7/31) that I no longer need. If anyone is interested, please PM me. I'm not looking for more than face value ($189 each). Will seriously consider any reasonable offer.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 15:20
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Re: Not only the building is ugly. So is the company. Goldman Sachs.
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Carlyle had one fund that they walked away from. One relatively insignificant fund. They are far from out of business. Whether or not they are or were, though, misses the point. It's just like Cerberus - Dan Quayle, John Snow, et al. The idea that you can hop from bank to cabinet to bank like so many beds is kind of sickening, no? If it's not, maybe you should have someone explain it to you.

GS made a gazillion bad bets. It just got treasury to cover them via the AIG bailout - 1 dollar on the dollar. Not knowing how weak your counterparty is is as indefensible as making an outright crap bet. That's why GS and all the others have many, many people performing "counterparty credit" analysis. Or supposed to be.

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GS is successful because they didn't make nearly as many bad bets as say, LEHMAN BROTHERS AND BEAR STEARNS.


Carlyle group, last time I checked, went under.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 0:59
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Re: Not only the building is ugly. So is the company. Goldman Sachs.
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Not at all - just tired of listening to the half-assed drivel. Nothing you said was anything but warmed-over jargon. On top of that, it was entirely out of context - which leaves one with the impression that you probably not only don't understand the markets, but perhaps the english language as well. The whole point of the thread is Goldman's very unique position within the markets and its perhaps too close relationship with the government.

JCList is not exactly the first place I go to for investment advice, nor is CNBC. But CNBC is one of those places that gets all juiced up about "technicals".... Just sayin'

Posted on: 2009/7/20 23:44
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Re: DANGEROUS GRAND STREET IN DOWNTOWN JERSEY CITY
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You miss the point, shaded one. First, approval comes from the city, not the state. More importantly, approval has been withheld for about one year. Not because they couldn't sync it. Because it doesn't match the curtains. Or the sofa. Or the developer didn't make the proper contribution. Whatever - the outcome is standard: the people who are affected by this pissing duel are not the pissers. No, the affected are we, the urine-soaked sheep who have to cross Grand st. The same sheep who get to pay higher taxes (imposed in part by a non-resident), subsidize Crystal Point and deal with every other foul wind that blows out of 280 Grand St.

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The traffic light at Barrow & Grand was installed by the developer of Liberty Harbor. It is his responsibility to activate it only after he gets the approval from the State. The trick will be to sync the new lights with those north and south to avoid congestion. Good night and good luck.

Posted on: 2009/7/20 20:55
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Re: Not only the building is ugly. So is the company. Goldman Sachs.
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Wibbit -by "technicals" do you mean head and shoulder and other "the trend is your friend nonsense"? If you are going to throw around jargon, make sure it at least sounds knowledgeable.

Stick to hitting up people in every condo development for every piece of info you can scrounge so you can make your "informed decision". (Are you really buying or just talking?)

Posted on: 2009/7/20 20:49
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Re: DANGEROUS GRAND STREET IN DOWNTOWN JERSEY CITY
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I think Liberty Harbor even offered to paint them yellow, but that wasn't satisfactory to D'Zuza.

Posted on: 2009/7/20 0:07
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Re: DANGEROUS GRAND STREET IN DOWNTOWN JERSEY CITY
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I've heard the same thing (about the color of the lights) from a good source. Those lights have been hanging in place for almost a year now. Asinine is too kind a word to describe the situation.

Posted on: 2009/7/19 21:42
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Re: Jersey City council votes for an 11.25% tax hike - ( Will add $450 for a home assessed at $100,000 )
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Dan,

I don't think the "more of us have to play the game" is relevant here - I'd wager that people posting on, and reading vote in disproportionately higher numbers than the general public. Simply by coming to the site they've demonstrated some small level of awareness and interest in the community around them. (I assume you meant voting by "play[ing] the game" and not some sort of chicanery that would be associated with the administration's interpretation of the phrase.)

I assume you meant "systemic" and not "systematic" - perhaps our problems are systemic, but the mayor and many of his chosen council people have provided continuous examples of their unethical approach to their positions. I don't think trying to remove someone who demonstrates such little regard for their constituents and is incapable of representing us in a professional (or even, much of the time, tolerable) manner should be precluded by whatever systemic problems that exist and longer term solutions necessary to address them.


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I believe our problems are systematic, not attributable to specific individual officeholders and it has been this way a long time (before you, I or Mayor Healy saw the light of day).

By soley blaming the mayor and current administration, you are all but guaranteeing the next administration will be even worse......

instead, I believe we need checks and balances; a counter balance to our one party system, enforced stronger ethical standards and the general public to participate in local politics/government.

pretty simple, if we want different results, lets change the equation, if we want to change the "game", more of us have to play the "game".

I would be happy to meet and talk further with anyone interested.

for those who have not already visited our campaign site which is / will continue to be updated, please see - http://onejerseycity.org. we are also on facebook - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=37126317047

I am also a big fan of Citizen Campaigns' approach to government reform at the local level, see - http://jointhecampaign.com/

The Citizens' Campaign, launched in 2004, works to cultivate a culture of service and develop a new generation of citizen leaders - leaders who put service over personal gain.

I can be reached at danlevin@onejerseycity.org or daniel.levin@verizon.net. my phone number is in the book.

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What's with the call for a revolt, Dan? You said earlier that you want no part of a recall effort - to my way of thinking that is where a revolt would most likely lead. What then is the ceiling on your appetite for revolt?

Posted on: 2009/7/19 1:19
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Re: Councilwoman Elect Lopez a Florida Resident?
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You know - this one could actually end well. That'd be a nice change. At what point do you think Healy starts to backpeddle away from her? Now that the story has elevated above the local cesspool level and is out of his control, he has to scurry/waddle back into his hole, no?

Posted on: 2009/7/18 18:08
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