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Re: Noise from Concerts on Governors Island
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You could stage a counter-attack by placing your computer speaker in your window in the direction of the noise ruffians and playing your "best of Beethoven" CD at moderately high volume.

Posted on: 2010/9/20 11:41
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Re: Gross Behavior by JC Police Officer Menendez
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In some (police) states the cops are invoking wiretapping laws to arrest citizen photographers.

Watch your ass!

Posted on: 2010/9/19 14:35
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Re: Christie signs bill allowing N.J. residents to send children to public schools in other towns
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I guess this means that some motivated students will be able to get a better education and extract themselves from the harmful / inadequate schools they were stuck in. What a concept!

Posted on: 2010/9/15 3:50
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Re: Horrid new weekend light rail service
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Wait until the gub'ment controls your health care! Oh boy!

Posted on: 2010/9/5 17:46
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Re: Ideas for Birthday Venue in JC
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You could rent the top floor at John's Pizzeria by Exchange Place and have a drunken pizza party. It's nice up there, but not outside, and there's a private bar.

Posted on: 2010/9/1 17:48
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Re: Jersey City cops have issued drivers hundreds of tickets in state-funded crackdown
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We should have roving bands of police going from house to house, too, looking for code violations, pot smoking, illegal bee keeping, obscene barbecuing... Think of all the tickets and money the city would get if cops could just walk into your house and write you tickets for your infractions! What a wonderful world it would be!

Posted on: 2010/8/28 12:25
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Re: 2 Jersey City brothers charged with cockfighting after dead roosters found in car
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"$26,000 bail each"

@26k bail for letting two chikins kill each other, yet I can buy a chikun at Shop Rite for 3 bucks.

We live in a truly idiotic world.

Posted on: 2010/8/26 21:39
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Re: what's with the Morton Williams produce scam?
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The (Mostly) Incoherent Property Owner - Get your money back, and it will be a victory for all!

The Seminary Student - Do an undercover investigation!

The Blue Collar Pragmatist - Talk to manager, then contact authorities.

The Newport-ist - Reveals that own investigation further validates that Newport truly is the land of milk and honey

The Communist - Call the state, comrade! It's your duty!

The Anecdotalist - Let's not be so fast to jump to conclusions, unless they are closely aligned with my conclusion based on anecdotal evidence gathered 15 years ago!

The Farmer's Market True Believer - I'm sorry that you got salmonella from your chicken cutlets, but that's what you get for not buying tasty free-range chicken from the itinerant free-range meat tinkers.

The Summarist - Unable to turn his cutting wit and powers of observation against himself, the Summarist leaves it to you, the zany characters of JCLIST...

Posted on: 2010/8/25 13:30
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That downstairs apartment was ready to be rented again way too fast after the fire. I knew someone who lived there a few years ago. The resident's doorbells were disconnected so that all visitors were forced to phone up before arriving. They said he was afraid of "spot inspections" by the city or state. They do all the work themselves and thus is the problem. Their carelessness caused the recent fire via an overheated extension cord draped across a bed. The apartments are huge but the risk is too great.


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Based on his enemies I'm willing to bet that Vlad is an awesome dude. What's he look like? I wanna be his buddy and talk Russian lit, have vodka drinking contests, and eat borscht and cream.

Posted on: 2010/8/9 19:36
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Don't adults have anything better to do anymore than play children's games and entertain dogs?

Posted on: 2010/8/9 16:22
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Re: Trump Condo's New Roof Lights
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Its only over priced if you can not afford it!!!!

That doesn't make sense, would Trump pay above market price for something as simple as a bagel or a pencil ?


Maybe not. But he definitely wouldn't pay even 1/4 market price to live in a dump like the JC Heights.

Maybe if you move into Jersey City you would get the picture.


What in the hell are you on about?

Posted on: 2010/8/5 2:09
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Its only over priced if you can not afford it!!!!

That doesn't make sense, would Trump pay above market price for something as simple as a bagel or a pencil ?


Maybe not. But he definitely wouldn't pay even 1/4 market price to live in a dump like the JC Heights.

Posted on: 2010/8/4 12:04
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Re: Downtown: Williamsburg's Barcade (Bar Arcade) Coming to Newark Avenue
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A piece of me dies every time I cross the turnpike extension and see a town trying to be Hoboken and Williamsburgs love child. If there was an icon for a face with a tear coming down I'd use it.


You've absolutely hit the nail on the head, 100% correct.
I couldn't have been more excited for the beer garden to open, a year later wild horses could not drag me there. It's a soulless, sanitized, shithole. An aircraft hanger that serves beer.

Instead of edging ever closer to becoming Manhattan/Brooklyn Light maybe we, or business owners, should be looking at what Jersey City can offer that the big city can't.


That mission's already been accomplished - reasonably priced housing, an artless, lifeless, culture-less downtown, and big box stores.

Posted on: 2010/7/30 18:56
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I love the jitney's because they run so often. But they are crappy, hot, and uncomfortable.

People whining about them - don't take them. But don't ruin them for those of us who like to take trips to Bergenline and buy hot pants for deep discounts.


Have you ever driven a car behind these things? They are a menace, and if they were held to the same traffic laws the rest of us abide by (and they are obviously immune to), they would be arrested and never allowed to operate any motor vehicle ever again.


Ever drive behind a taxi cab / regular city bus / school bus?

Posted on: 2010/7/17 23:08
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Re: Lincoln Park: Baby-sitter who drugged, drank & had sex with girlfriend while baby drowned gets jail
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Firstly you did not refer to any particular crusade, you referred to the Crusades. Furthermore you did not quote from the Wikipedia article on the first Crusade, you quoted from the article on the Crusades. For the sake of argument and because I am such a swell guy I'm prepared to focus on the first Crusade.


Actually, the excerpt I quoted from the Wikipedia article says, explicitly, that:

"The Crusades were fought mainly by Western European forces (taking place after the East-West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims occupying the near east."

So, my frame was obvious if you bothered to read what I quoted, instead of inserting the obviously extraneous information you jumped to in an attempt to obfuscate my central contention that the Crusades were a defensive action. As I've already stated, and as my quotation from Wikipedia definitely shows, I am concerned solely with the Western / Muslim kerfuffle in the Middle East. This is also what is most commonly thought of when people mention the Crusades.


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Your argument is that because what would become the Holy Roman Empire had once offensively taken control of the Holy Land then any military action to regain control of that land, hundreds of years down the line and after being conquered and retaken many times over, is defensive.
This has to be the weakest argument in history, literally.


It's not an argument in history, but an argument from history. And saying "what would become the Holy Roman Empire" is like trying to find a lineage between Ghenghis Khan and Mao.

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Put simply, if you're a pagan and you steal an apple from a Jew, the Jew steals it back, you steal it back from him, he steals it back from you, you steal it back from him, a couple of hundred years pass, you see a burning cross in the sky and you're now a Christian, a Muslim steals the apple, you steal it back, the Muslim steals it from you again, a few hundred years pass while a bunch of Muslims steal the apple from each other and you then decide that you now want back that apple that you initially stole from a Jew over 1000 years ago because it is culturally relevant to your adopted religion, then yes, that is an offensive act.
Now, thank you for actually making the weakest argument in history.


You?re willing to somehow conflate the actual Roman empire with, 800 years later, the ?Holy Roman Empire,? but then disconnect them in terms of land ownership. Were they a monolithic entity existing as one throughout all time, or not? Which is it? Were the Christians feeding themselves to the lions? You?re ability to run off a time-line is amusing, but lacking depth, context, or nuance.

What a joke!

The frame is not a 1000 years, but, again referencing the excellent Wikipedia article,

?the Rashidun Caliphs had captured Jerusalem from Christian Byzantium in 638 AD, but had allowed Christians passage to Christian shrines. The less tolerant Seljuk Turks conquered the area from their Muslim neighbors in In 1065 AD and were continuing to expand into Anatolia. Pope Urban II called for the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont in 1095?

roughly 425 years. And during that time, there was a constant barrage against Europe.

A fantastic timeline of Muslim crusades can be found here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/1 ... about_islamic_crusad.html

The idea that the Crusades were unprovoked or offensive is easily put to death by the facts of history.

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If your views on this and your pro-life hysteria aren't driven by your Catholicism then what is it? Because it certainly isn't historical or medical facts.


I don?t recall mentioning any particular religious affiliations I may or may not have in this thread, and certainly haven't infused religion into the conversation at all. But it seems that in your extreme prejudice you can do nothing but.

As for ?pro-life,? that descriptor is typically applied to those who are against abortion, and is certainly not properly used to describe those who don?t think EMTs should have the right to drown children at the whim of blowhards on JCLIST. Further, there are plenty of non-religious people who are themselves pro-life (atheist Nat Hentoff comes immediately to mind) or who deem abortion to be murder (if a necessary murder, as atheist Camille Paglia argues.)

As for medical facts, I can only assume that if you had a child, and found him or her face-down in a swimming pool, you?d do everything you could to save that child?s life, regardless of any theories you might cling to in the luxury of your unchallenged rationalism

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Actually -
" i?de?ol?o?gy   [ahy-dee-ol-uh-jee, id-ee-] Show IPA
?noun, plural -gies.
1.
the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group.
2.
such a body of doctrine, myth, etc., with reference to some political and social plan, as that of fascism, along with the devices for putting it into operation.
3.
Philosophy .
a.
the study of the nature and origin of ideas.
b.
a system that derives ideas exclusively from sensation.
4.
theorizing of a visionary or impractical nature."

I guess it all depends on who you ask, but I have never heard "ideology" used in relation to economics, and besides the proper use of the word isn't really relevant when it was very obvious what was meant of my use of it. Besides, it doesn't change my point, which is the fact that the US doesn't fight ideological wars, economic or otherwise. Non of the conflicts mentioned were fought solely over an economic belief system, they had concrete benefits which could be realized.
By the way, nice job distracting from what I was originally pointing out- the fact that you clearly have no grasp of history; as evidenced by your description of the cause of ww2. Throwing pseudo academic descriptions at us every chance you get doesn't prove you more intelligent or knowledgeable than anyone else here, it just proves that you are a decent bullsh*tter.


1. There are more than one dictionary, and mine is obviously superior to yours because it's more expansive.

2. No correlation between economics and ideology? Really? Ever heard of, I dunno, Capitalism? Marxism? How about Marxism? What about Keynes? Socialism? What about Ludwig von Mises? No ideology there? Really? You've never heard of a relation between economics and ideology...

Question - have you ever heard of a relation between empty space and a hole?

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You do realize that the Crusades were defensive and not offensive, right?


You mean like how the Europeans came here to "defend" their future strip malls and fast food chains from the native americans?


Huh? There's no ground for comparison.

The Holy Land was conquered by the Moslem's, and the Europeans tried to reclaim it.

If the 5 Nations, for example, waged a full-scale war on the US, then it'd be an apt comparison.

I don't see your point.

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You do realize that the Crusades were defensive and not offensive, right?


Yes, of course it was. And the Inquisition was nothing more than a fact finding mission.


From Wikipedia:

Since the Middle Ages, blah blah blah...destruction of Christian holy places and churches by the Turks.


robot, how did you ever prove a point in the days before wikipedia? (not that you've proven any since...)


I use wikipedia because it's an easily accessible and verifiable source, and one that is more or less reliable.

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I'll simplify it for you, Slacky.

And BTW, this has nothing to do with faith or no-faith. Just amazed at how people mis-quote history constantly. Whether or not you support the Catholic Church presently or historically is irrelevant. What is relevant is that Church-controlled land was occupied by Muslims, and, around 300 years later, the Church approved the secular reclamation of those lands. Or are you claiming that the Muslim seizure of the Holy Land was not an offensive act?

Question - are current efforts by Palestinians to reclaim Palestine defensive or offensive?

Muslim armies under the Rashidun Caliphs had captured Jerusalem from Christian Byzantium in 638 AD, but had allowed Christians passage to Christian shrines. The less tolerant Seljuk Turks conquered the area from their Muslim neighbors in In 1065 AD and were continuing to expand into Anatolia. Pope Urban II called for the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont in 1095 in response to a call for aid from the Byzantine Emperor Alexus I to halt both the harassment and murder of Christians and the destruction of Christian holy places and churches by the Turks.

Simple history. The fact that long centuries past has no bearing on whether this was an offensive or defensive action. Finally, I was referring specifically to actions in the Holy Land, and not subsequent events that may be labeled Crusades as well.

Simply put - if you steal my apple, and I try to take it back, am I acting offensively or defensively?

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You do realize that the Crusades were defensive and not offensive, right?


Yes, of course it was. And the Inquisition was nothing more than a fact finding mission.


From Wikipedia:

Since the Middle Ages, wars sanctioned by the Roman Catholic Church undertaken in pursuance of a vow, and directed against infidels, i.e. against Muslims, pagans, heretics, or those under the ban of excommunication, have been called Crusades. The specific crusades to restore Christian control of the Holy Land were fought over a period of nearly 200 years, between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century.

The Crusades were fought mainly by Western European forces (taking place after the East-West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims occupying the near east. Muslim armies under the Rashidun Caliphs had captured Jerusalem from Christian Byzantium in 638 AD, but had allowed Christians passage to Christian shrines. The less tolerant Seljuk Turks conquered the area from their Muslim neighbors in In 1065 AD and were continuing to expand into Anatolia. Pope Urban II called for the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont in 1095 in response to a call for aid from the Byzantine Emperor Alexus I to halt both the harassment and murder of Christians and the destruction of Christian holy places and churches by the Turks.

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...its hard for me to come up with any purely ideological wars since the crusades.


even the crusades were fought for territory and control of resources.

I suppose thats true. They did function to greatly enrich the church as well as the various kingdoms and independent groups (Knights Templar etc.) involved. I love how way off topic this thread has become!


You do realize that the Crusades were defensive and not offensive, right?

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Not to get off topic, but the US does not fight wars on ideological grounds, and ww2 was no exception....

Later...

My point exactly. Those were not about defending democracy against communism, they were about defending American economic interests from regimes unfriendly to those interests.


Wow. So the one person doesn't know the difference between alive and dead, and FDS doesn't understand that economics IS ideology.

ideology |ˌīdēˈ?ləjē; ˌidē-|
noun
1 ( pl. -gies) a system of ideas and ideals, esp. one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy : the ideology of republicanism.

Geniuses, all around.

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> So, you can predict in every circumstance wen reviving
> someone might result in a life YOU deem "not worth
> living." We had a little war last century over just such
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Eh? What war was that then?

Robin.


the robot has made the inevitable leap to Hitler.

Godwin's Law - Wikipedia


It always amazes me that the self-proclaimed "brights," the positivists, utilitarians, nihilists, and science-fetishists, are the first to leap to the tired old rhetorical zombie of Godwin's Law, which, as usual, is an unfunny attempt to divert attention from a proper comparison by stating the equivalent of "there he goes, using the letter T again."

I'm further amazed that a person who doesn't know the difference between a drowned person (i.e., a corpse) and a near-drowned person (i.e., someone who isn't a corpse) is still fighting an argument they lost for themselves in their opening volley. You've contradicted yourself, cherry-picked my rebuttals, resorted to ad hominem, all in the effort to defend your completely indefensible opinion that all little children found in bathtubs and feared dead should be entrusted to the Nihil rather than take the chance that they might be revived. Again, this from a person who doesn't even know the difference between ALIVE and DEAD!

What ignoramuses like you don't realize is that your pop-nihilism (gleaned, I imagine, from a second-rate science education and vigorous masturbatory tussles on poor-man skeptics websites) is that it was the self-same arrogant (and barely thought out) nihilistic/utilitarian philosophies espoused by average persons such as yourself that, after sweeping the continent and Russia from the early 1800s on, paved the way for the state-centric and anti-human "science" dictatorships that arose in Germany and Russia. The anti-life "common knowledge" of the armchair philosopher was nothing more that the parroting of the much more complicated political propaganda of the feverish revolutionaries, and the end results are plain to history.

As for the German connection, as any moderately educated person knows, the death camp and the gas chamber were first prototyped, under the code name T4, on the weak, the infirm - the "worthless eater," "life not worth living," the disabled, the brain damaged, and the wards of state, before being used for the physical destruction of the Jews.

Do you deny, even now, that you'd rather they "let the poor darling die" than have her "burden the taxpayer with a life not worth living?"

You are a zombie, a mirror image of a not-clever-then parrot of a philosophy you count as fresh. Well, your "fresh" philosophy, supposed insight, and selfish compassion (an oxymoron that causes internal chaos in higher minds, but I'm sure not in yours) is nothing more than the recapitulation of the popular opinion that allowed the apotheosis of a death cult in the personage of Adolph Hitler, and the emergence of literal hell on earth.

But congratulate yourself on your good, common, sense. I'm sure it helps you sleep soundly at night.

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Also, from wikipedia:

Children in particular have a good chance of survival in water up to 3 minutes, or 10 minutes in cold water


and bathwater is usually ice-cold. thanks for the research.


You really are a blind fool. Again, please stay away from any machines that have any human attached to them.

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...I do know that a medical professional (i know doctors and nurses and i am pretty sure EMS should be included) have taken the oath to do no harm. It is required by them to save a life to the best of their ability, failure to do so and they can become liable...


true. but I believe that reviving a dead person so that he/she can exist for decades attached to machines is indeed doing harm. juries disagree.

but I am by no means blaming the EMTs for doing their job. this tragedy occurred because of criminally negligent caregivers, and they should be charged with murder.

but because medical geniuses like robotjustin think a cure for this child is just around the corner, that little girl "lives," and her would-be-killers have gotten off with ridiculously light sentences.


So, you can predict in every circumstance wen reviving someone might result in a life YOU deem "not worth living." We had a little war last century over just such a theory.

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Those are her trees. I hope she plants cayenne BUSHES next year.

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Some brain tissue in adults with Alzheimer's and other diseases. Not gonna help a baby in a vegetative state that can't see or hear.


More misinformation. There are doctors specifically working with victims of near-drowning, specifically in Germany.

Also, from wikipedia:

Drowning victims should be treated even if they have been submerged for a long time. The rule "no patient should be pronounced dead until warm and dead" applies. Children in particular have a good chance of survival in water up to 3 minutes, or 10 minutes in cold water (10 to 15 ?C or 50 to 60 ?F). Submersion in cold water can slow the metabolism drastically. There are rare but documented cases of survivable submersion for extreme lengths of time. In one case a child named Michelle Funk survived drowning after being submerged in cold water for 70 minutes. In another, an 18 year old man survived 38 minutes under water. This is known as cold water drowning.

Please, don't any of you work in the medical profession or as EMS.

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After 40 minutes of CPR, emergency medical technicians brought the child back to life, but she remains in a vegetative state.


this may sound horrible, but I'm going to ask it anyway: EMTs know full well that going that long without oxygen is going to leave a baby with significant brain damage. why do they work for nearly an hour to give a child a fraction of a life? do they really believe that a lifetime spent in a vegetative state is better than no life at all?


You're a heartless fool. I know firsthand that near-drowning is not a death-sentence, and that doctors are extremely optimistic that adult stem-cell treatments will be available in a few years that will regenerate brain tissue.

Keep your uninformed, idiotic opinions to yourself.


40+ minutes without oxygen is not a "near-drowning." It's a drowning.

Idiot.


drown |droun|
verb [ intrans. ]
die through submersion in and inhalation of water

The child lives, therefore, near-drowning.

Crack a dictionary much? Or are you claiming to define who is alive and who is dead?

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After 40 minutes of CPR, emergency medical technicians brought the child back to life, but she remains in a vegetative state.


this may sound horrible, but I'm going to ask it anyway: EMTs know full well that going that long without oxygen is going to leave a baby with significant brain damage. why do they work for nearly an hour to give a child a fraction of a life? do they really believe that a lifetime spent in a vegetative state is better than no life at all?


You're a heartless fool. I know firsthand that near-drowning is not a death-sentence, and that doctors are extremely optimistic that adult stem-cell treatments will be available in a few years that will regenerate brain tissue.

Keep your uninformed, idiotic opinions to yourself.

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I love the jitney's because they run so often. But they are crappy, hot, and uncomfortable.

People whining about them - don't take them. But don't ruin them for those of us who like to take trips to Bergenline and buy hot pants for deep discounts.

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