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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Greenville - did I say I was scared? And if you enjoy walking all your dogs with gunfire - more power to you. But you probably pay 800 a month for your rent; whereas I pay three times that. For that kind of money, I expect a different quality of life.

If YOU have a problem with Starbucks and Cosi - don't frequent them.


Saabchick - You don't come off as being scared in the least.

I think the attitude, Greenvillechick, is "fed up." Real estate in this town is changing, and with it, the voting population. The new folks don't have the "You can't fight City Hall" mentality which results from living in a one-party state for 100 years. Ya know it: everyone gives up because the system is broken.

So, if the Hudson County Democraps cannot find the time to make quality of life reforms, they deserve a little push back. It's in their interest to (appear to) coddle and placate the largely new, mostly white and Asian newcomers, as those people provide a sizeable tax bump for the city, have generated many new businesses (and tourism, can you believe it?).

If the party can't make changes, they won't be voted out... but property values will drop and people will shuffle along to Hoboken or New York. It's not likely, but it's possible.

Nobody in JC wins if that happens.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:26
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Except that there is little evidence suggesting that heavy handed police tactics actually reduce crime. If Guiliani's policing tactics were as effective as you are suggesting, then New York City's crime rates should have fallen faster and farther than the national trend. But that's not what happened at all, which is why Stephen Dubner and Steven Levitt have a salient argument about abortion; the downward trend in crime in New York City began slightly earlier than the downward crime trend across the nation corresponding with the availability of abortion. This trend began in New York City before Guiliani took office, before he initiated a zero tolerance policy, so can you really say his policies reduced crime, or is it more accurate to say his policies were simply concurrent with a drop in crime caused by some other factor?

Moreover, because police write so many tickets in attempts to thwart criminals with outstanding warrants or who are violating other laws, the courts are ultimately overwhelmed with cases, which leads to a greater dismissal rate. The more violations that are dismissed, the more likely it is that someone who really should be prosecuted is let off.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:23
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Re: All Points West 2009 Festival linuep - Guess the lineup & WIN TICKETS!
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I heard a rumor that Rage Against the Machine may step in.....Wish MCA the best..

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:22
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Did I say Kerik? No. READ. And as for national trends, then why the hell didn't Jersey City or Newark or any of these cities catch up with it? This is why I can't stand the liberal way of thinking. You all think that Obama can save the country, yet Guiliani wasn't responsibile for NY's resurgence. And if I spelled that word wrong, too f-ing bad.

I'm just tired of hearing how close this crap is coming to my neighborhood - a neighborhood that I'm paying good money to live in and was told that is safe. TommyC is totally spot-on - if this crime comes any closer - everybody is going to move out and the waterfront will just become an extensive of the ghetto.



Well if your so scared maybe you should move... I'm sorry that your little plastic bubble is going to be infiltrated with the "ghetto" altho I find that highly unlikely... but would find it rather amusing to see Cosi and Starbucks packed with white t-shirt wearing "gangs"


You have to understand that people living Downtown are paying a lot of money to live there, BECAUSE it's the safest area of JC. We have the right to complain about crime, when we are paying double what it costs to live anywhere else in JC, in order to avoid such crime.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:22
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Greenville - did I say I was scared? And if you enjoy walking all your dogs with gunfire - more power to you. But you probably pay 800 a month for your rent; whereas I pay three times that. For that kind of money, I expect a different quality of life.

If YOU have a problem with Starbucks and Cosi - don't frequent them.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:20
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Re: APW Replacement?
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I bought 2 extra VIP passes for Friday (7/31) that I no longer need. If anyone is interested, please PM me. I'm not looking for more than face value ($189 each). Will seriously consider any reasonable offer.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:20
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Re: The Beacon
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Probably because not as many of them like living there as we do here.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:19
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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OK. So we all agree that exiting laws need to be enforced.

In Georgia, animal control laws are used as a basis to extend investigations. And what do the cops find? People who abuse or neglect animals are more likely to do the same to their children, have outstanding warrants, use drugs, etc.

So, just as Vigilante says: enforcement of "petty" acts is not a dragnet, yet it sweeps up folks for bigger crimes and outstanding warrants.

Not all nuisance/ "quality of life" ordinances would accomplish that second goal, but some would.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:17
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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saabconv wrote:
Did I say Kerik? No. READ. And as for national trends, then why the hell didn't Jersey City or Newark or any of these cities catch up with it? This is why I can't stand the liberal way of thinking. You all think that Obama can save the country, yet Guiliani wasn't responsibile for NY's resurgence. And if I spelled that word wrong, too f-ing bad.

I'm just tired of hearing how close this crap is coming to my neighborhood - a neighborhood that I'm paying good money to live in and was told that is safe. TommyC is totally spot-on - if this crime comes any closer - everybody is going to move out and the waterfront will just become an extensive of the ghetto.



Well if your so scared maybe you should move... I'm sorry that your little plastic bubble is going to be infiltrated with the "ghetto" altho I find that highly unlikely... but would find it rather amusing to see Cosi and Starbucks packed with white t-shirt wearing "gangs"


Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:17
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Re: Woman beaten unconscious, in critical condition
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"Despite what the comments above say, most parents do know better than this. There are a lot of church-going folk in this town who would be simply ashamed to see their child in this video."

I wish it were the case. Here's an example of what a parent of these "kids" might say: Gordon's mother yelled to her son, "Keep your head up."

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:17
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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This is bananas!! I live smack dab in the middle of both shoot-outs... about 2-3 block radius from both spots... I love my gritty neighborhood, but its getting hot in the kitchen... and yes on foot patrols would help, like I said I have seen a dramatic increase in police presence since the previous, now it is going to be ten times worse... The cops are pissed off and just hemming anyone up, Sunday night they had a whole row of kids lined up and patted down against the church if you live in the neighborhood you would see that they are trying... and if you don't well, now you know you can't expect a miracle overnight, the sad thing is that this is what it takes to get their attention turned to these areas I bet you my right pinky that by the end of the summer things will go back to normal..

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:15
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Re: APW Replacement?
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Adam Yauch Of “Beastie Boys” Diagnosed With Cancer

July 21st, 2009 - 6:38 pm ICT by GD

Adam Yauch, one of the members of the popular group Beastie Boys announced on Monday, through a home made video placed without fan fare on the band’s website, that he would be receiving treatment for cancer. According to the reports, as Adam will be undergoing a treatment, the band will supposedly cancel its upcoming tours and may push back the release date of their new album, which is pending down the line.

Adam did not give any specifics of the veteran hip-hop group’s plans regarding in the 3 minute 27 second video. Its next scheduled appearance will be supposedly at the “All Points West Festival” in Jersey City on July 31.

Mr. Yauch had reportedly said in the video, which had probably been recorded in a small recording studio, that he began to feel a small lump on his throat at about two months ago and that the doctors had recently discovered cancer in his parotid gland and lymph node. “This is something that’s very treatable and in most cases it’s, um, they are able to get red of it,” Yauch reportedly said in the video released at the band’s website. He was accompanied with his fellow band mate Adam Horovitz who was sitting just next to Adam, when the video was being shot.

The video was a remarkable one for its frenzied craziness and informality. As it begins, Yauch and Horovitz laughs as the former says ,”This is crazy.” Mr. Horovitz quickly responds by saying, “It’s not funny.” While the mood is very serious, the friends and band mates find themselves laughing at several more times. Eventually after Mr. Yauch had apologized to his fans for the cancellation of the shows, Mr. Horovitz looks into the camera and says,”We will see you.”

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:14
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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What most of you are forgetting is that the zero tolerance laws were not just about writing a few tickets. It was implemented because it helped cops net a lot of people who already had outstanding warrants for much more serious crimes. People who mug people for a living are much more likely to jump a turnstile than you or I. Criminals are consistently stupid. They will speed up and down our streets with a trunk full of drugs or guns and not think twice about it. That is why cops must make more traffic stops, arrest fare-jumpers etc.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:14
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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saabconv wrote:

TommyC is totally spot-on - if this crime comes any closer - everybody is going to move out and the waterfront will just become an extensive of the ghetto.


in other words, what it used to be

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:13
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Re: Woman beaten unconscious, in critical condition
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Okay, this isn't the wild west guys. BUT my main concern is that when they tell the police to clean up the neighborhood that usually means getting numbers. The easier it is to arrest someone, (obvious addicts, homeless, prostitutes, etc.) the more of them they will arrest and arrest them many times. That leaves the harder police work, investigation and detection, by the wayside. While the police are running around to show they are cleaning up the streets you see less of the addicts, homeless, prostitutes, but organized and violent crime goes up every time, check out the numbers, EVERYTIME, there is a crackdown on crime. The justice system needs to go about things differently and reward the quality of arrests NOT the quantity. AND we the public, need to understand the shift in focus and give them time to get the REAL bad guys.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:13
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Re: Woman beaten unconscious, in critical condition
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tommyc_37 wrote:
Those videos are disgusting. Guys hitting girls is unacceptable.

You know, in my parents' generation, Jersey City was filled with poor and working class Irish and Italians. There were many fistfights, but there certainly weren't many shootouts (aside from Casa Nostra stuff ;) ) , and there sure as hell weren't any boys punching girls. And I can assure you that if a boy punched a girl, he would be "taken care of" by the other boys, or the brother of the girl.

So why are these beastly children doing things like this? What is the cause? A combination of things?

Poor parenting? Yes, I think so. What about the influence of hip hop culture? Much hip hop music is notorious for including lyrics that are less than respectful towards women. Is this a factor? I think it is.

I'm prepared to get slammed for that ... by those whose hearts bleed.


I doubt there are any sophisticated causes here, just mutants breeding and making more mutants. Their assisted meal programs should be peppered with birth control. Free drug and dirty needle distribution would also help. All the money that was re-routed into these condemned schools should be given back to the communities where children actually do homework after school instead of beating girls.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:12
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Re: NYC & the Port Authority want trash/freight rail tunnel to Greenville -- Healy opposes it.
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http://www.observer.com/2009/real-est ... rms-industrial-waterfront

Bloomberg Offers Support for Freight Tunnel; City Warms to Industrial Waterfront

NY Observer
By Eliot Brown
July 21, 2009 | 8:40 a.m.

It’s been four years since Mayor Bloomberg changed his stance on a proposed freight rail tunnel that would run from Brooklyn to New Jersey. At the time, speaking in an affected neighborhood in Queens, he reversed his prior statements and staked out a position of opposition to the project, which was estimated in 2005 to cost $7 billion.

Now in an election year, again, he seems to have changed course.

Speaking Monday at an event in Sunset Park on city investment in the industrial waterfront, Mr. Bloomberg offered some words of support to the proposed cross-harbor tunnel, calling it “a good long-term solution.”

Still, he was quick to couch his statements in conditionals, essentially endorsing the concept so long as the negative impacts aren’t too negative.

“I think we have to find a ways to make sure that it is economically sustainable and its impact on neighborhoods where you go in and out is something that we can manage,” Mr. Bloomberg said.

The project has been relentlessly championed by Representative Jerry Nadler, the Manhattan West Side and southern Brooklyn Democrat who enjoys little more than talking endlessly about the need for better infrastructure and a working waterfront. Since at least the 1980s, he has been saying the growing city will choke on truck traffic without a new way to handle freight, but it has yet to advance past early planning stages.

His passion for the project show in his choice of words to describe it. Speaking at the Sunset Park press conference Monday, he called it a “monumental issue for our time,” and “the lynchpin of our efforts to rationalize the way we move goods throughout our region.”

It would need a huge injection of billions, likely from multiple sources—the federal government is one clear target of Mr. Nadler’s—and it is hardly an issue for elected officials to rally around. It is, after all, a freight rail tunnel, and there is some NIMBY opposition to a piece of the project in Queens. (In 2007, after he unveiled his PlaNYC sustainability program, Mr. Bloomberg expressed openness to the tunnel again, saying it was "not the world's worst idea.")

THE TALK OF THE RAIL tunnel came as the mayor announced a series of initiatives along the Brooklyn waterfront—many of which were already in motion—to invigorate industrial portions of the shore. Called the “Sunset Park Waterfront Vision Plan,” the mayor called for $165 million ($105 million of which would come from outside funds) for the creation and renovation of industrial space and other related initiatives.

The announcement is indicative of a broader trend within the city’s economic development arm, which is seemingly warming to the concept of the industrial waterfront. Back in the early days of his administration, there was considerable tension between the concept of a working waterfront and the visions of then-Deputy Mayor Dan Doctoroff, who called for the city to reclaim its shoreline by favoring higher-value residential development and parkland.

But in the past two or three years, there has been a noticeable shift in emphasis: much of the waterfront near Manhattan has already been rezoned for residential, and the economy clearly doesn’t allow for 30-story condo towers to rise by, say, Sunset Park or Bay Ridge.

The city has called for the creation of more drydocks—contradicting an earlier action when officials allowed Ikea to dismantle a large drydock in Red Hook—and Monday unveiled a “vision plan” for the Sunset Park industrial waterfront.

The mayor, for his part, brushed off questions about a shift in emphasis, saying that he has pushed a need for both industrial and residential along the water.

But Mr. Nadler, long a critic of the Bloomberg administration on these issues, was quick to laud the mayor on his shift on industrial issues Monday. “After many years of spirited discussion on port-related matters,” he said, “I am so pleased to say that we are now all in agreement on the general goals moving forward regarding port development and now have only differences on timing.”

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ALSO LISTEN TO THIS ON WNYC's LINK:

Bloomberg Plans to Keep South Brooklyn's Waterfront Industrial

by Matthew Schuerman
WNYC

NEW YORK, NY July 21, 2009 —Mayor Bloomberg has unveiled a "vision" for the south Brooklyn waterfront, that calls for keeping the 2.5 mile coastline largely industrial, rather than converting it to residential use. WNYC's Matthew Schuerman has more.

REPORTER: Bloomberg's spent a lot of his time in office advocating for residential development in places like Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Long Island City. But Sunset Park, Brooklyn, is a different story. The Mayor says he hasn't changed his policy, but different parts of the city lend themselves to different uses.

BLOOMBERG: There's demand for residential, there's demand for retail, there's demand for commercial there's demand for industrial.

REPORTER: Bloomberg says the city's spending $165 million in southwestern Brooklyn to repair shipping piers, modernize warehouses and improve a freight rail line that runs through the neighborhood. The money will also pay for a 22-acre waterfront park for residents who live further inland. For WNYC, I'm Matthew Schuerman.

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/137050

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:11
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Re: Opening at The Regent at Liberty Harbor
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Not sure about negotiating the rent but I think they will be full by mid-fall. Think about it. All they have to do is pre lease all the remaining units, just like they did with us 2 months ago, and they will be full.

Hopefully the tenants that end up doing this won't experience brain damage from dealing with PM.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:10
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Did I say Kerik? No. READ. And as for national trends, then why the hell didn't Jersey City or Newark or any of these cities catch up with it? This is why I can't stand the liberal way of thinking. You all think that Obama can save the country, yet Guiliani wasn't responsibile for NY's resurgence. And if I spelled that word wrong, too f-ing bad.

I'm just tired of hearing how close this crap is coming to my neighborhood - a neighborhood that I'm paying good money to live in and was told that is safe. TommyC is totally spot-on - if this crime comes any closer - everybody is going to move out and the waterfront will just become an extensive of the ghetto.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:09
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Re: The Beacon
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In what world do people believe the Beacon is a competitor to 77 Hudson?


Doesn't 77 Hudson wish they got those 32 new owners instead of Beacon?


Funny, I don't recall ever seeing anyone who owns at 77 Hudson start a thread here to "educate" the rest of us on how wonderful the building is and why it's such a great value and, by the way, the corner unit on their floor is for sale and it's a great value to all you potential homebuyers.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:08
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Yeah but you can't deny the constant ticketing for turnstile jumpers, and public urination etc. Zero tolerance. Jeez, I got pulled over once on 5th avenue by a cop on FOOT! They don't put up with any BS. It worked, and it works.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:06
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Re: Woman beaten unconscious, in critical condition
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I kind of wish the police just let nature take it's course after watching these videos. None of these kids are worth defending. The douche who taped this actually bragged about having great myspace footage. I feel bad for their teachers. (Not their parents) for having to educate a bunch of mutants.


It seemed like a few people tried to break it up. But, the mob mentality wants fights like this to break out and then to continue... nevermind the weight class, size disparity, or the fact that one person is obviously on the ground.

A little bareknuckling is as old as sin, but brawls like this are a goddamn disgrace. Too bad the City didn't show up with paddy wagons and zip ties. They could then parade them back to grand/mama's place with their head hung low just in time for a taste of smackaroni dinner. Despite what the comments above say, most parents do know better than this. There are a lot of church-going folk in this town who would be simply ashamed to see their child in this video.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:04
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Re: Woman beaten unconscious, in critical condition
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Those videos are disgusting. Guys hitting girls is unacceptable.

You know, in my parents' generation, Jersey City was filled with poor and working class Irish and Italians. There were many fistfights, but there certainly weren't many shootouts (aside from Casa Nostra stuff ;) ) , and there sure as hell weren't any boys punching girls. And I can assure you that if a boy punched a girl, he would be "taken care of" by the other boys, or the brother of the girl.

So why are these beastly children doing things like this? What is the cause? A combination of things?

Poor parenting? Yes, I think so. What about the influence of hip hop culture? Much hip hop music is notorious for including lyrics that are less than respectful towards women. Is this a factor? I think it is.

I'm prepared to get slammed for that ... by those whose hearts bleed.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:03
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Re: Anyone know of a good BYOB restaurant in JC?
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MORE on Grove Street has a lovely dining garden out back, and their Thai food is pretty great.

I didn't want to like them after they papered my foyer with about 20 menus, but they've become my favorite place in downtown.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:03
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Re: Anyone know of a good BYOB restaurant in JC?
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(sidenote: Embankment has BYO on Mondays, which still isn't a reason to eat there)

Actually, the food at the embankment is pretty good. Not that you can compare the two, but I would much rather eat there then at taqueria.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:03
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Re: Anyone know of a good BYOB restaurant in JC?
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Forget Taqueria.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:00
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Re: Anyone know of a good BYOB restaurant in JC?
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+1 Madame Claude. My personal favorite.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 11:00
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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saabconv wrote:
I'm sure I will have several of you jump down my throat, but someobdy like a Guiliani in charge of the city would help. Look at what he did for New York City. That place was a filth ridden, crime ridden dump for so many years when the libs were in charge - and in just a few years, it became a place for familes, tourists, et al - kind of like what I thought Jersey City would be like. And I'm sadly disappointed. Who wants to be out walking the dog and having to duck for cover? Its ridiculous....


In retrospect, Guiliani's success was less about anything he did and a lot more about national trends, a roaring economic expansion, and if you believe Levitt and Dubner, the legalization of abortion in New York State three years before Roe Vs. Wade.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 10:59
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Bernie Kerik is training guard dogs in Franklin Lakes. He can be here in like 40 minutes.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 10:57
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Re: More Gunplay: Suspected crooks open fire at JC cops -- July 21st
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Real estate Downtown is way too expensive for this kind of crap to be tolerated. If it doesn't get better, JC as a whole will receed.

And please, I don't want to hear non-Downtowners jump down my throat.

Posted on: 2009/7/21 10:53
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