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Re: Council nixes plan to share abatement money with schools
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Gee,all of a sudden the council has become independent of Mayor Healy.He said he liked the idea but they voted it down.Could it be he was just pulling our leg.

No,don't lie,don't cheat,don't steal.

DON"T BULL$HIT

Posted on: 2008/1/24 21:56
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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I emailed them a correction around 10am, and apparently, they have corrected it sometime this evening. Note, they did not post a correction, they literally corrected the article.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 21:48
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Part of me wants to send a letter to the NYTimes. Another part of me just hopes the less attention we give this stupid article, the less it will matter.

I've posted it here before, but I'll say it again and again, I have my own issue with NYers (or anyone from anywhere else) who spends their whole life bad mouthing NJ and then ends up moving here for whatever reason. (Or coming to the beaches or where ever else.) Stay the heck out. Your state is so much better - then stay there. We (or at least I) don't want you here, you don't want to be here, so go away. (End rant.)

Posted on: 2008/1/24 21:43
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Re: Prenatal Yoga
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Yoga Shunya is wonderful and Elaine is a great, great prenatal yoga teacher. I did yoga for most of my first pregnancy and I do think it helped me out a lot, not only during the pregnancy itself (particularly the last trimester) but also during childbirth. I'm expecting my second and I'm doing it again. I cannot recommend it enough - come!!

Posted on: 2008/1/24 21:35
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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...just wanted to send a nice big F U over to the NY Times, and remind them that in NJ the NY Times print edition is the medium of choice used by homeless people as toilet paper.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 20:49
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Quote:

JSQ wrote:

I think Ms. Cohen wrote her article from imagination and added some pictures from Flickr.


She posted a picture of WTC but she only took the trains from JSQ to 33rd St & Hoboken to 33rd St.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 20:45
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Re: Ron Paul for President
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Posted on: 2008/1/24 20:16
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Re: Jersey City for Kucinich Group
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Kucinich calls it quits
Whats the bet his sweet-heart of many years his junior, will spilt with the old-fart?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr/kucinich_withdraws

Posted on: 2008/1/24 18:20
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Re: Jersey City for Kucinich Group
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Its official - Another one bites the dust

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Posted on: 2008/1/24 18:16
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Re: Best Indian Restaurants in JC????
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First place I ever went to was India on the Hudson in Hoboken (same owners as Karma Cafe, I think). My vote is still for The Village Restaurant on Newark Ave. They get plenty of points for having a full bar.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 18:12
We are what we pretend to be. So we must be careful what we pretend to be - Vonnegut
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Re: Filthy Block
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You can't just blame kids...

I live across from a bodega and I witness old and young alike just throw their partially eaten food, trash... etc in the street without even looking for a place to deposit their trash.

I watch trashy (pardon the pun) people open up their car doors and just dispose of their used soda cans, fast food containers, empty oil containers... right there in the street.

It's a matter of being low-class (and I don't mean in the socioeconomic sense) and careless. The kids learn this behavior somewhere...

On a side note, the city needs to do a much better job of distributing trash receptacles on more blocks. Also, food/convenience store business owners should be REQUIRED to have trash cans outside their storefronts. If there is a trash can right in front of them, they may be more likely to use it.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 18:02
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Re: Best Indian Food?
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Quote:

Kindelan wrote:
Newark Avenue between Kennedy Blvd and Tonnelle Avenue. There are many choices there, many people say Rasoi is tops, I went to Bolo Curry and enjoyed it.



Drunk Curry. it was aight...

Posted on: 2008/1/24 17:47
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Re: Barack Obama for President
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Michelle Obama Defends Husband's Voting Record, Experience

By Ben Szobody
The Greenville News
January 24, 2008

Michelle Obama countered increasingly fierce criticism from Hillary Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday in an impassioned speech at a Greenville restaurant, defending Barack Obama’s votes in the Illinois Senate, his experience and his ability to stand tough to Republicans.

"The one thing that is clear is that when power is confronted with real change, they will say anything," she said.

She also told nearly 100 local women at The Lazy Goat that when it comes to the difficulties they face balancing work and family, her husband is "one of the few people who gets it," in part because of her own dilemmas as a "regular person."

Michelle Obama never mentioned the Clintons by name, and she told The Greenville News afterward that despite the involvement of former president Bill Clinton in his wife’s campaign, her role will remain "that of spouse," and that she’s "not a politician."

Referring to criticism -- renewed by Hillary Clinton this week -- of her husband’s more than 100 "present" votes in the Illinois Senate, Michelle Obama highlighted his work passing ethics reform, expanding child care, gaining tax credits for the working poor and dealing with racial profiling and the death penalty.

"So let me tell you, when people talk about Barack’s voting record in the state Senate, they will not talk to you about that because that would be too much information for you, wouldn’t it?" she said. "It’s much easier to focus on a few ‘present’ votes," instead of his work for "regular people" that "no other front-runner in this race can claim at all."

She described his decision after college to do community work instead of going to Wall Street to "make millions," then his decision after Harvard Law School to take on civil rights work and the state legislature. She said his books are the only reason they recently got out of debt.

"It would seem to me that before anyone would open their mouth to even claim to want to be president of the United States they would have to show that kind of commitment to regular folks," she said.

She said the candidates with Washington experience chose to support the Iraq war while her husband opposed it during a primary race he wasn’t supposed to win.

She also referred to detailed policy discussions in the presidential campaign, a trait Hillary Clinton casts as a strength.

"People always want to know the intricacies of candidates’ policies," she said, "but the truth is a lot of this stuff isn’t rocket science. We know what we need to do with public education because there are thousands of excellent public schools all over this country. We know what they look like, we know what they cost. Our problem is that they only exist for the fortunate few."

To the question of whether Obama is "tough enough" to run against the Republican nominee, Michelle Obama said, "Do you know where we live? Chicago politics. Illinois politics. Mean, tough politics."

Posted on: 2008/1/24 17:37
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Re: Plan Green Expo at Liberty Park
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Do you think PSE&G will turn this baby down for the day?

Click Here

Posted on: 2008/1/24 17:14
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Re: Plan Green Expo at Liberty Park
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jediweapon wrote:
Oh wow! It's just great to see PSE&G funding such a worthy, affirmative and eco-friendly community inititive!

What a crock.


Agreed. A few years ago when even Con-Ed was giving incentives for replacing old windows and buying efficient heaters and appliances, PSE&G was giving nada.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 17:01
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Re: Plan Green Expo at Liberty Park
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Quite a regular


Oh wow! It's just great to see PSE&G funding such a worthy, affirmative and eco-friendly community inititive!

What a crock.

I don't know what's harder to believe--that a massive CO2 polluter and chronic over-charger like PSE&G is waving its "green" credentials...

or

...that knuckleheads like Ed Begley Jr. and Ted Danson have hopped aboard this PR Express train--presumably for some measure of added fame and fortune.

P.S.--Is "special guest" Don Imus going to play an exhibition game against the Rutger Girls BBall squad?

Posted on: 2008/1/24 16:54
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Re: Filthy Block
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I have written to councilman Fulop about the problem and here is his response:

I have CCed on this E-mail Althea who works with me in the office. So you know, this has been an on going problem there but I think Althea mentioned that she can touch base with inspectors of the NID to have a conversation with the business owners there regarding trash. Also perhaps we can explore a garbage can

I have CCEd Althea so you can explain what course of action you think best as it is your neighborhood

Steve

Steven M. Fulop
Jersey City Councilman
Ward "E"
280 Grove Street
Jersey City, NJ 07302

Posted on: 2008/1/24 16:09
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Council nixes plan to share abatement money with schools
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Council nixes plan to share abatement money with schools

by Ken Thorbourne
Thursday January 24, 2008

In 8-1 votes, the Jersey City council quashed proposals by Ward E Councilman Steve Fulop last night to share tax abatement money with local schools and expand the committee that negotiates the tax breaks.

Fulop, who received the tacit endorsement of Mayor Jerramiah Healy for his proposal to give schools 5 percent of the money the city rakes in from tax-abated properties, called the vote "a pretty sad day for Jersey City because they get an idea of how we value or kids."

"Five percent? I would say they're worth it," Fulop added.

Fulop's colleagues argued his 5 percent proposal amounted to robbing Peter to pay Paul, since money taken from the city would have to be replaced through taxes or other fees. Opponents of the measure also said that if the school district got more money the schools tax levy would be adjusted so that city would contribute less, meaning no overall increase for the district.

"Do we just want to shift the tax burden from one person to another?," said Ward Councilman Michael Sottolano, as he endorsed City Council President Mariano Vega's move to establish a committee to study the issue.

Ward C City Councilman Steve Lipski called Fulop "noble" for trying to "advance the argument" about school funding, but citing a Dow Jones report, said the city would be in a $19 million budget hole if it weren't for the income from for payments in lieu of taxes.

Fulop's other proposal called for adding two members of the Board of Education to the mayor's seven-member Tax Enhancement Committee, the group of city officials that negotiates the terms of tax abatements.

Council members objected on the grounds that it didn't make sense to give school officials a say in city business when the city has no say over the school district's budget.

One of eight public speakers supporting Fulop, former mayor and current school board member Anthony Cucci, scolded the council for not showing "enough concern" for the school system.

No public speaker spoke against the proposals.

The backdrop to this discussion is a new school funding formula recently adopted by the state, which seeks to shift some state aid from poor, urban districts to more working- and middle-class school districts.

As of one of the state's 31 court-designated "Abbott" districts, the 32,000-student Jersey City school system receives more than $425 million in state aid. Local taxpayers contribute $81.2 million toward the school district's roughly $600 million budget.

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Also from Wed's Jersey Journal
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Plan to give PILOT money to schools looks doomed

by Ken Thorbourne
Wednesday January 23, 2008

Jersey City Councilman Steve Fulop refused last night to pull two of his proposals from tonight's council agenda -- both dealing with tax abatements and school funding -- even though they appear to be heading toward defeat.

One measure calls for urging the state Legislature to change the statute that governs tax abatements so the city school district would receive a 5 percent cut of the payments in lieu of taxes made by property owners.

Under the current law, the city gets to keep all the money, with the owners paying an additional 5 percent to the county.

The other measure calls for adding two Board of Education members to the mayor's Tax Enhancement Committee, the group that negotiates the terms of abatements with developers.

Mayor Jerramiah Healy had called this proposal an "unauthorized power grab" by Fulop last week and it didn't have much council support. But Council President Mariano Vega had predicted easy passage of the 5 percent-to-schools proposal -- until last night.

Several council members blasted the idea during the council caucus, arguing that it is not clear how much state aid Jersey City will receive under Gov. Jon Corzine's new school funding formula. Therefore, they argued, it would be foolhardy and premature for the city to voluntarily give schools a slice of the PILOT pie.

Instead, they proposed establishing a committee to study the matter.

Council members Bill Gaughan and Steve Lipski said the cost of the state-run school district had nearly doubled in 15 years.

"The school board has made no attempt to reduce spending," Gaughan said.

Fulop accused his colleagues of "circling the wagons" and playing politics with the issue.

"Our kids are definitely worth it," said Fulop. "And I'm not willing to back down on that."

He then offered to agree to the committee idea if his colleagues would declare a moratorium on tax abatements, to which Vega replied, "Do you think it's responsible to say 'Let's put a moratorium until I get my way?'"

Posted on: 2008/1/24 16:03
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Re: A bldg 1 bdrm condo for sale??
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jcaro28 wrote:
I understand that its 80% sold out. All of the 1 bedrooms are sold out. But I figured, with the real estate mkt in the shape its in, maybe some of the orignal buyers are not going to move forward and are considering selling?? Anyone out there??


There are three 1BR units available at the "A" building, all resales & all just under $400,000. Two of them, however, haven't even closed yet. The contracts are not assignable, so the sellers' have to wait until their closing (scheduled for around mid-Feb.) before accepting any offers. Feel free to give me a call at 908-902-2827 if you would like more info. Hope this was helpful!

- Chris

Posted on: 2008/1/24 15:35
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Re: Prenatal Yoga
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Hi

I am looking into the Prenatel Yoga classes at Yoga Shunya. Has anyone else have taken Prenatel classes here? How was your experience?

Any other recommendations in the area would be greatly appreciated.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 15:32
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Re: OK for arts district towers
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What's next? Does anybody know when the City Council Dog and Pony show is? We all know the Toll plan is a done deal but I for one plan to at least make some more noise about it.....

Posted on: 2008/1/24 15:31
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Re: Corzine Proposes Steep Rise in Tolls - Higher tolls to affect everyone
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Myrna A. Gottlieb wrote:
There is no easy answer to New Jersey’s budget woes, but it is clearly unfair to attempt to do it all on the backs of drivers, particularly commuters, senior citizens and truckers, who use the toll roads.

What are the old people doing on the toll roads?

Posted on: 2008/1/24 15:20
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Quote:

jediweapon wrote:
Clearly Ms. Cohen is clueless. There must be tens of thousands of commuters between JC and Manhattan on any given day that DON'T park at Harrison and live in West Orange. But she manages to find a couple and extrapolate a trend.

Here's my favorite bone-headed line:
"On both trains I took...there were more men than women. Do the wives all stay home in New Jersey, or work closer to their homes?"

Not exactly Pulitzer-level investigative journalism. Let's hope the NYT's White House correspondent is a little more dogged...

Hey, she forgot to mention that you can still take the PATH to Long Island City!

This reminds of an earlier discussion that I had with somebody (ianmac, perhaps?) who said that our tongues are like horses' butts, when compared with those of a writer form a prestigious publication.
I think Ms. Cohen wrote her article from imagination and added some pictures from Flickr.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 15:16
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Re: ANIMAL CRUELTY AT THE HUDSON COUNTY SPCA -- at 480 Johnston Avenue, Jersey City
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We can shine a light on this situation with a demonstration, something we did years ago when things got out of hand. Taking a couple of hours on a Saturday morning on behalf of mistreated animals is a small price to pay. If there's enough interest in the idea, let's act. This is what they fear the most and usually the only thing that brings about change.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 14:53
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Quote:

alb wrote:

Do you know if there are any abandoned stops that are maybe messed up but maybe still there? I have a vague impression that, for example, maybe there used to be a stop between Journal Square and Kearney.


I don't know about other stops in New Jersey, but there had been a station at 28th Street which later became 33rd Street, and I think there was one at 19th street before the Tubes were completed.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 13:02
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Quote:
Also, PATH trains have much more standing room than the subway, but there were fewer seats.


Go figure.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 12:48
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Tiffany Harrington, a TV producer who lives in Plainfield, N.J., moved there 10 months ago from Piscataway, N.J., where she had been living at home. Now, instead of taking New Jersey Transit’s crowded Northeast Corridor train from Edison and then transferring to the subway, Ms. Harrington takes a different New Jersey Transit train to the PATH station at Journal Square in Jersey City, where she catches a train to Christopher Street in Manhattan.
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The New York Times is gonna have to issue a correction. New Jersey Transit doesn't have a train to Journal Square. What a freaking idiot?!

Plus, who gives a f8ck about what designer handbags women are carrying on the PATH. Geez ...

Posted on: 2008/1/24 12:47
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Re: New York Times: PATH Train Commute From Hoboken to 33rd Street and Journal Square to 33rd Street
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Quite a regular


Clearly Ms. Cohen is clueless. There must be tens of thousands of commuters between JC and Manhattan on any given day that DON'T park at Harrison and live in West Orange. But she manages to find a couple and extrapolate a trend.

Here's my favorite bone-headed line:
"On both trains I took...there were more men than women. Do the wives all stay home in New Jersey, or work closer to their homes?"

Not exactly Pulitzer-level investigative journalism. Let's hope the NYT's White House correspondent is a little more dogged...

Posted on: 2008/1/24 12:37
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Re: Ron Paul for President
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I can't believe I am posting to this thread -- I guess the jclist webmaster will be happy!

Here is a JC article:

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Murray Sabrin: The Gold Standard of "Ron Paul Republicans"

The Ron Paul Revolution expands to New Jersey with Dr. Paul endorsing US Senate candidate

Jersey City, NJ - Presidential candidate Ron Paul, the Republican Congressman from Texas who inspired a massive nationwide outpouring of grassroots support and record-breaking fundraising, has endorsed his friend and colleague of 25 years, Dr. Murray Sabrin, for the GOP nomination for US Senate in New Jersey.

"Murray has devoted his entire career to promoting limited government and personal freedom, and I am proud to have known him and worked with him for more than 25 years," said Paul. "He will not only be an outstanding representative of the people of New Jersey, but the greatest advocate of liberty and constitutional principles the US Senate has seen in decades. I am delighted to endorse him and encourage all Americans who believe in freedom to support him enthusiastically."

"I am very proud to receive Ron's endorsement and to lead the Ron Paul Revolution in New Jersey," Dr. Sabrin stated. "We will continue to focus our efforts in New Jersey towards Ron Paul's victory on February 5th, my victory on June 3rd, and our combined victory on November 4th."

Sabrin and Paul met in 1982 at a monetary conference sponsored by the CATO Institute, and have been friends ever since. Dr. Sabrin credits Dr. Paul for harmonizing a strong defense of the pro-life position with the limited government principles that both men espouse.

Dr. Sabrin was one of the earliest supporters of Ron Paul's presidential campaign in New Jersey, which has a February 5 primary date and is a winner-take-all battleground that looks to be in play given the faltering campaign of its one-time frontrunner.

Murray Sabrin, a noted academic, author, and philanthropist, is a business professor at Ramapo College in New Jersey. He and his wife Florence of 39 years reside in Bergen County. For more information, please visit http://www.murraysabrin.com.

judythpiazza@newsblaze.com

http://newsblaze.com/story/2008012407 ... TOPSTORY/Top-Stories.html

Posted on: 2008/1/24 11:59
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Re: ANIMAL CRUELTY AT THE HUDSON COUNTY SPCA -- at 480 Johnston Avenue, Jersey City
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Stormy, dog who went missing, is back at shelter

by Paul Koepp
Jersey Journal
Thursday January 24, 2008

Stormy has been found.

The black lab mix, which was taken from the Jersey City SPCA shelter after city officials found filthy and freezing conditions there before escaping from the shelter he was brought to afterwards, is back at the SPCA.


Animal Control Officer Joe Frank said today that Stormy was found Sunday morning near the Liberty Humane Society shelter on Jersey City Boulevard, not far form where he escaped while being walked on Jan. 15.

The other two dogs that were taken from the SPCA shelter were returned after the conditions there were abated and Stormy is now back as well, said Frank.

Posted on: 2008/1/24 11:57
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