misterdude wrote: But man, the McCain/Obama fanboys and girls, damn, makes me want to puke. So blindly loyal, naive, and caught up in the election hype. Ready to walk off the cliff if their candidate says so and righteously defending their candidate from the slightest criticism or affront.

alb wrote: I know a lot of very liberal people wish that Obama was a radical, but I think the truth is that he's about as radical as toothpaste. Or, to extend the Star Trek metaphor, Mr. Spock.

icechute wrote:
Take this anyway you please, but if you are looking to buy property, in any city, stay away from any area with a street named for M.L.King.

misterdude wrote:
So many crazy idiot jealots on this board thinking that they are actually helping their respective candidates get elected. Ha ha!

Please... if Obama or McCain actually shared the views and sentiments of these fan boys and girls (well, maybe McCain actually does), they'd certainly be last ones to get my vote.

It's clear to me that Obama is the best candidate. Like many others have said, not my ideal choice, but the best one right now. McCain has lost much of his credibility in the past few months and is frankly looking desperate. Obama has stayed focused and confident and although sometimes a bit vague, he sounds like a man with a well thought plan, not a last minute hail-mary like McCain.

But man, the McCain/Obama fanboys and girls, damn, makes me want to puke. So blindly loyal, naive, and caught up in the election hype. Ready to walk off the cliff if their candidate says so and righteously defending their candidate from the slightest criticism or affront.

It remains me of why I hated college pep-rallies, company outings, and Macworlds!

alb wrote: When the campaign started, it seemed as if the Republicans were going to sell McCain as an older, Captain Kirk kind of guy

wink wrote:
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as for http://www.talkingpolitics.net/, that site looks like it was created in the 90's. if anybody knows the webmaster they should definitely look into updating that site.
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NewHeights wrote:
When will law-biding citizens in this $hithole of a city be able to legally defend themselves.

NewHeights wrote:
Don't you guys get it? if the Police start to crack down on these thugs Al Sharpton will be protesting the very next day (along with Greenville Chick)

It will only get worse in that area of JC.

GrovePath wrote:
Jersey City's police chief: It's not a 'war zone'

The Jersey Journal
Tuesday October 14, 2008


Jersey City Police Chief Tom Comey, seen in a file photo from an awards ceremony last year, takes issue in today's paper with a Jersey Journal column depicting life in one neighborhood as "a war zone.''

Jersey City Police Chief Tom Comey takes issue in today's Jersey Journal with a recent column depicting life in one neighborhood as "life in a war zone.''

"The negative connotation conjured up by the use of that term is an insult to the vast majority of hardworking, law-abiding citizens residing there,'' he writes in the op-ed responding to Earl Morgan's Oct. 3 column.

While the "war zone'' designator was the word choice of a headline writer, and not Morgan, the column depicted a neighborhood where hard-working people are afraid to be outside because of gunfire and, particularly in warmer months, "roving bands of loud and unruly youths who make things generally unpleasant for them.''

Comey prefers to call the violence plaguing the Martin Luther King Drive area a "cancer."

"We have done a lot and more still needs to be done. We can't do it alone,'' Comey concludes. "Whether the resolution comes from the home, the courts, legislation or a social agency, we remain ready to work with anyone to eradicate this cancer."

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Nabe desperate to end constant violence
LIFE IN A WAR ZONE

Friday, October 03, 2008

"M a, can we move?" a teenager asked her mother while they stood on the sidewalk Wednesday, watching as Jersey City police searched the street in front of their Stegman Street house for shell casings, the remnants of a late afternoon gunfight.

Two weeks ago, the same neighborhood was rocked by four separate shooting incidents in the space of 24 hours that left two men injured.

This latest incident occurred just a stone's throw from School 15, and only minutes after the school's students were dismissed at 3:10 p.m. In fact, police on the scene questioned two School 15 teachers who had been walking on Stegman Street, toward King Drive, and were forced to duck for cover when the shooting started.

According to police, someone on a bicycle pedaled up to a car on Stegman near King Drive and fired at a vehicle until it drove off. Police said no shooting victim turned up in area hospitals.

"I was on the porch with my daughter and I had my back turned to the street when the shooting started right across the street," said the mother of the girl who wondered out loud about the possibility of relocating.

"I heard the shots and turned around and saw a man firing shots. So, I pushed my daughter into the house and slammed the door."

While residents are thankful no one was killed or wounded, they're angry and frustrated about all the gunfire that's been erupting around them.

One of the gunfights two weeks ago left a bullet lodged in the wall of a daycare center at the Mary McLeod Bethune Center on King Drive. Fortunately no one was in the room at the time.

The stretch of Stegman, between King Drive and Ocean Avenue, where Wednesday's incident occurred, is made up of, with a few exceptions, well maintained one-and two-family homes.

The residents and property owners there say they deserve the right to be able to walk, stand or otherwise enjoy their homes and their block without worrying about being shot.

And it's not only gunfire that has them upset. Residents say that during the summer months the street is often invaded by roving bands of loud and unruly youths who make things generally unpleasant for them.

"We have fights and noise here all the time," said another Stegman Street resident. "We call the police, but they don't always come. Why can't we have more police patrols?"

That woman's next neighbor, who arrived home in his car only to find his way blocked by police tape, unleashed a heated verbal torrent at the police, elected officials, even The Jersey Journal.

"None of you are doing anything," the man said, his voice freighted with anger. "All kinds of things go on this block.

"Sometimes people come here and just fire off shots into the air. No one cares, no one is doing anything about it."

Ward F. Councilwoman Viola Richardson, who arrived at the Bethune Center shortly after Wednesday's shooting, said she cares very much and denounced the shooting incidents.

Richardson said in the next few weeks she will call a meeting of community and law enforcement organizations, as well as members of the clergy, to discuss ways to cope with the street violence and hostility that seems to plague youth in the predominantly African American and Latino ward she represents.

"We need a comprehensive way to deal with this situation," Richardson said. "Whatever we do it won't be just a quick fix approach. We need a plan."

As for why gunfire has been so prevalent in this area of Stegman Street and King Drive, well, police will only officially say they are investigating. But several sources say it is the result of a feud between rival gangs.

trp3 wrote:
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Which brings me to another point. It seems people are voting for Obama because they hate republicans, not because they think Obama is the best person for the job.

... I think they are voting for Obama because he's educated, worldly, sophisticated, wants to end that disastrous war, is a big universal healthcare advocate, and because they HATE GWB.

brian_em wrote:
Obama shares the same name of a man we just went to war with...I'm sorry, but it just looks bad... Again, it would be strange if people DIDN'T bring it up. Cmon.