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Re: What's going there?
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Anyone know what's happening/whatever happened to the two condo buildings that are approved for construction above the 10th Street embankment between Monmouth and Coles?

The two buildings are 270 Tenth and 310 Tenth. They were voted upon way back in 2006 and they are listed as still approved for development on the JCRA development map, but it seems that absolutely no work has been undertaken from the looks of things. Just curious as to whether this got canned...?

Here is the last mention on JCList from 2006: http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7154

Posted on: Today 14:16
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Re: Sharpton to March Against Police Brutality in Jersey City on Saturday
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This is what the march was about, but so many RACIST are too blind to see it.


Nobody really knows why Kenwin Garcia was walking on the highway that July day in 2008 when a State Police trooper stopped him — or why he wound up dead.

He spent most of his last conscious breaths face down in the grass along Interstate 287 in Hanover Township, according to police reports and recordings, with his hands and ankles handcuffed and zip-tied behind his back and three state troopers on him after he broke two patrol car windows.

Garcia, 25, of Newark, groaned, kicked and struggled for several minutes before going still. His limp body was carried to an ambulance. His heart had flat-lined, his breathing stopped, his brain starved of oxygen, medical records show. He died a week later after being taken off life support.

The police on scene later said in reports they never punched, hit or otherwise struck Garcia. But an autopsy found he suffered severe internal injuries, including a broken breastbone and ribs, a torn kidney and extensive bleeding. Tests showed he had no drugs or alcohol in his system.

The full story behind Garcia’s death has never been told, the details never publicly disclosed by state authorities or the court system. Now, more than six years later, an NJ Advance Media investigation reveals a series of flaws and inconsistencies in the official accounts of that day, which were then incorporated into a criminal investigation into the troopers’ actions that determined Garcia died of a controversial medical condition.

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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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ianmac47 wrote:
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Monroe wrote:

We could argue this forever, but the idea of a 9 1/2 month work year, traditional pension that is almost history in the private sector, and lifetime Cadillac pensions for the teacher and spouse is part of a model that is now unsustainable. And workplace legal protections are now so strong that many of the original reasons for teacher unionization are gone.



Except that the market is saying the only people who want jobs as teachers are mediocre while competent people are going into the private sector. So the shortened work year, pension and healthcare apparently isn't as attractive as you are claiming.


New grads aren't really interested in pensions and healthcare. Give them a bronze-level healthcare plan, a 4% match into a 401k, and 30-50% increase in base salary and that will match anything the private sector will offer. And would end up costing little more than at present.

Oh. And a career that rewards them for performance, not tenure. The brightest and smartest are motivated by success and not simply service.

Posted on: Today 13:24
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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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Monroe wrote:

We could argue this forever, but the idea of a 9 1/2 month work year, traditional pension that is almost history in the private sector, and lifetime Cadillac pensions for the teacher and spouse is part of a model that is now unsustainable. And workplace legal protections are now so strong that many of the original reasons for teacher unionization are gone.



Except that the market is saying the only people who want jobs as teachers are mediocre while competent people are going into the private sector. So the shortened work year, pension and healthcare apparently isn't as attractive as you are claiming.

Posted on: Today 13:08
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Re: What's going there?
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hero69 wrote:
what's being built on the lot at 251 newark avenue,next to the vietnamese restaurant/jordan's


Apartments/Condos last I heard. I'm sure there will be a ground floor retail component but I don't know that they had a tenant in mind.

Posted on: Today 12:47
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Re: Port Authority plans to extend PATH to Newark airport
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It's not that this is a bad idea, it's that it should be pretty damn far down on the list of priorities. Instead of a two seat ride to the airport for downtown NY you now have 1. You already had a single seat ride from mid-town.


Posted on: Today 12:35
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Re: Port Authority plans to extend PATH to Newark airport
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i don't understand why it takes 4 years to start construction

Posted on: Today 12:32
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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nafco wrote:
id rather take a trip to the NYC WF rather than Milburn if i needed it that bad. At least you can get a good selection of beer in NY which is still not allowed in NJ for whatever reason.


I think some state law prohibits TJ's from selling booze at more than two NJ locations-you can get it in Westfield and Princeton.

Posted on: Today 12:29
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Re: Port Authority plans to extend PATH to Newark airport
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Construction on PATH airport extension to start in 2018

By Steve Strunsky | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
October 01, 2014 at 7:56 AM

NEWARK — Construction on an extension of PATH service to Newark Liberty International Airport is scheduled to begin in late 2018 and be completed five years later, according to documents from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

A request for proposals, or RFP, to manage the $1.5 billion project issued on Sept. 26 calls for construction to begin in the first quarter of 2018, with completion scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2023. The management contract for the project is to be awarded by the end of this year, according to the the RFP, which notes that the dates are subject to change.

Proponents of the project say it would provide a one-seat mass transit link between the airport and the heart of the metropolitan area it serves, an amenity that has come to be expected by frequent fliers.

Planners and transit advocates say a PATH airport extension would also provide a convenient and affordable commuting option for airport workers in Hudson and Essex counties as well as New York. Environmentalists have embraced the project as a means of reducing automobile traffic.

Support dates back at least to the late 1970's, when an advisory panel recommended the link. The Port Authority commissioned a study that recommended the project in 2012, and it was included in the agency's current $27.6 billion 10-year capital plan adopted in February, though without a specific time frame.

A Port Authority spokesman, Steve Coleman, confirmed that Friday's RFP was the first document to lay out a schedule for the project, but cautioned that the dates were not set in stone. Proponents nonetheless welcomed word that construction was now at least tentatively scheduled to begin.

"21st Century transportation is vital if we're going to compete with major airports around the country and the globe," said Joe Sitt, chaiman of the Global Gateway Alliance, an airport advocacy group. "So we're glad to see the Port Authority putting concrete milestones on the table toward making a one-seat ride from the World Trade Center PATH to Newark Airport a reality."

The extension is to run from the PATH's western terminus at Newark Penn Station, along an existing Northeast Corridor right of way used by Amtrak and New Jersey Transit trains. NJ Transit already provides heavy rail service between Newark Penn and Newark Liberty via a station on the Northeast Corridor linked to the air terminals and other areas by the airport monorail.

The PATH extension would be largely redundant, following the same route and using the same monorail link. But riders could continue on PATH trains from Newark Penn on to Harrison, Jersey City stops at Journal Square, Grove Street and Exchange Place and at the World Trade Center in Manhattan. With a single transfer, PATH riders from Hoboken or Manhattan's West Side could also reach the airport, albeit in a two-seat ride.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... ion_to_start_in_2018.html

Posted on: Today 12:22
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Re: What's going there?
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JCMan8 wrote:
Your view of "diversity" is remarkably narrow. Essentially, you are saying the only kind of diversity that "counts" is income diversity. You also apply many assumptions and generalizations to a broad group of incoming people solely due to the high cost of living here.


There’s no question that Jersey City as a whole is an exceptionally diverse city, but downtown—the changing nature of establishments hardly reflects anything of the sort. I’m not arguing whether that’s good or bad, but that’s certainly the trend.

Posted on: Today 12:21
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:

Is it possible WF already analyzed this and still decided the numbers don't make sense?


I would say yes since there are 3 WH locations (24th St, 14th St and the Flagship WTC store) which are less that 5 miles from JC.

Posted on: Today 12:20
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Re: Fulop, MUA, and the Spirit of the Law
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Morgan: Jersey City autonomous agency awards contracts to the politically connected

By Earl Morgan/For The Jersey Journal
October 01, 2014 at 6:12 AM

Contracts recently awarded to various politically connected firms by the autonomous Jersey City Municipal Utilities Authority could very well mean higher water rates for city residents.

That’s not to say all water and sewage hikes are solely the purview of City Hall. Sewage rates are regulated by the Passaic Valley Sewage Authority, an agency with its own history of accusations of nepotism and cronyism. The JCMUA also voted to award its new legal counsel — the law firm, DeCotiis, Fitzpatrick & Cole — a $500,000 contract, a substantial increase over fees paid the previous legal counsel.

It should be noted that 21 of the law firm’s employees donated a total of $27,400 to Fulop’s mayoral campaign in 2012. Also, the firm’s Michael DeCotiis served as corporation counsel to ex-Gov. Jim McGrevey, now a Fulop administration regular.

But that’s not all. the law firm was awarded an additional contract to act as the agency’s bond counsel with fees ranging between $12,500 and $25,000 per bond sale and could also dole out a few bonuses along the way. This last move was, to say the least, unusual. It’s virtually unheard of for a law firm to hold duel contracts in an autonomous agency.

Still there’s more to tell. The engineering firm CME Associates, whose “associates” contributed to Fulop’s mayoral campaign, received an initial $148.000 contract, then a second one for $621,000. And there’s more.

Several days ago, it was announced that Christy Davis Jackson, who once ran former Gov. Jon Corzine’s campaign for the U.S. Senate, just snagged a seven-month, $77,000 contract to handle “community relations and grants” for the JCMUA.

Davis is the wife of Rev. Reggie Jackson who is himself a player in state politics and was once invited by Fulop to participate in a public presentation for KIP Charter Schools held in the City Council chambers, when the mayor was still a sitting councilman.

When the MUA was phoned, in an effort to reach Mrs. Jackson, no one there seemed to know who she is, nor did she respond to a phone call.

Former Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler created the JCMUA in 1998, by combining the former city Water Department to the former city Sewage Authority — and the rates have only gone up. Those rates, like very thing else, inevitably increase and it become a matter of how much of an increase.

Schundler, a Republican whose politics strongly mitigated against property tax increases, created the MUA to have it pay the city a “franchise fee” from a bond issue floated to plug a deficit in the 1997-98 municipal budget. The franchise agreement stipulated the city would receive $16 million each year for a decade. Then the MUA hired United Water for $7 million annually to operate the city’s water system that was previously the responsibility the city’s Water Department.

Fulop told The Jersey Journal that the contracts do not violate the spirit of the city’s “pay-to-play” laws. Be that as it may, the bucks to pay for these new contracts will flow from the pockets of the rate payers, i.e. residents of Jersey City.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2 ... olitically_connected.html

Posted on: Today 12:16
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How do New Jersey's largest cities rank for people with disabilities?
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How do New Jersey's largest cities rank for people with disabilities?

By Summer Dawn Hortillosa | The Jersey Journal
October 01, 2014 at 11:54 AM

Is Jersey City a good city for people with disabilities? Though the city offers a good quality of life for them, it still didn't make the grade overall, according to one report.

Out of 150 of the U.S.'s most populated cities, Jersey City came in at No. 100 in financial analysis website WalletHub's new report on the best and worst cities for people with disabilities.

Wallet Hub looked at three categories of criteria: economic environment, quality of life and health care accessibility and quality.

Jersey City's neighbor, Newark, fared worse overall, coming in at No. 119, but scored better in two categories: economic environment, ranking 115, and quality of life, ranking an impressive No. 8.

Economic factors include housing affordability, general cost of living, employment rate among people with disabilities and more. Jersey City came in at No. 120.

Quality of life was one category in which the city excelled, ranking No. 12. This category included the ratio of special education teachers to people with disabilities, number of hotels with wheelchair access per capita and walkability.

Health care was also a major factor. Criteria in this category included number of physicians per capita, number of public hospitals and percentage of uninsured people. Jersey City came in at No. 123.

Jersey City's high cost of living may be to blame for its poor score. The city tied for fourth most expensive city to live in with Yonkers, N.Y.

Do you agree with the report's findings? Let us know below.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ality_of_life_report.html

http://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-c ... e-with-disabilities/7164/

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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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ianmac47 wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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ianmac47 wrote:
If you aren't happy with teacher performance, paying less is not going to help. That's like going to McDonald's and being disappointed that the food isn't as good as a high end steak house. Its like saying, "I don't want to pay more than $5,000 for a car, but I want it to last for 100,000 miles, get great fuel efficiency, and need little repair work." Its like going skydiving and choosing your parachute based on which one costs the least amount of money. Its like ordering a PBR and then getting angry it tastes like water.

If you want better teachers, you need to pay them more. You want smarter teachers, you need to pay them more. You want better educated teachers, you ned to pay them more. Why would anyone with half a brain and masters degree come to work in a shitty government building, deal with the administrative bullshit, nasty parents, nasty students, work from 7 in the morning until 5 at night, and earn a fraction of what they could make in a professional career?


Most want to well compensate great teachers. And have the flexibility to fire lousy teachers. The NJEA is the roadblock to those ends. Once a teacher gets tenure it's almost impossible to fire them for being bad teachers. As I recall the number of teachers fired for poor performance (and by that I mean as teachers, not counting ones that come in stoned or drunk, or are having sex with students, or have other criminal issues) is so tiny that it would be laughable if it wasn't so bad for the kids.


Schools were historically one of the greatest employee abusers. Corruption dictating hiring and firing, particularly political corruption. Older teachers who tended to be paid more were often fired simply because they were paid more. Long story short, teachers unionized for same reason many other workers unionized: abusive employers. Or out another way: tough shit, the workers are unionized, deal with it.

Unions protecting bad teachers doesn't negate the fact that the people most qualified to be teachers can earn many times more money working in professional careers.


We could argue this forever, but the idea of a 9 1/2 month work year, traditional pension that is almost history in the private sector, and lifetime Cadillac pensions for the teacher and spouse is part of a model that is now unsustainable. And workplace legal protections are now so strong that many of the original reasons for teacher unionization are gone.


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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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id rather take a trip to the NYC WF rather than Milburn if i needed it that bad. At least you can get a good selection of beer in NY which is still not allowed in NJ for whatever reason.

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Re: What's going there?
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what's being built on the lot at 251 newark avenue,next to the vietnamese restaurant/jordan's

Posted on: Today 12:03
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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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Quote:

Monroe wrote:
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ianmac47 wrote:
If you aren't happy with teacher performance, paying less is not going to help. That's like going to McDonald's and being disappointed that the food isn't as good as a high end steak house. Its like saying, "I don't want to pay more than $5,000 for a car, but I want it to last for 100,000 miles, get great fuel efficiency, and need little repair work." Its like going skydiving and choosing your parachute based on which one costs the least amount of money. Its like ordering a PBR and then getting angry it tastes like water.

If you want better teachers, you need to pay them more. You want smarter teachers, you need to pay them more. You want better educated teachers, you ned to pay them more. Why would anyone with half a brain and masters degree come to work in a shitty government building, deal with the administrative bullshit, nasty parents, nasty students, work from 7 in the morning until 5 at night, and earn a fraction of what they could make in a professional career?


Most want to well compensate great teachers. And have the flexibility to fire lousy teachers. The NJEA is the roadblock to those ends. Once a teacher gets tenure it's almost impossible to fire them for being bad teachers. As I recall the number of teachers fired for poor performance (and by that I mean as teachers, not counting ones that come in stoned or drunk, or are having sex with students, or have other criminal issues) is so tiny that it would be laughable if it wasn't so bad for the kids.


Schools were historically one of the greatest employee abusers. Corruption dictating hiring and firing, particularly political corruption. Older teachers who tended to be paid more were often fired simply because they were paid more. Long story short, teachers unionized for same reason many other workers unionized: abusive employers. Or out another way: tough shit, the workers are unionized, deal with it.

Unions protecting bad teachers doesn't negate the fact that the people most qualified to be teachers can earn many times more money working in professional careers.

Posted on: Today 12:02
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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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by La_Verdad on 2014/10/1 10:11:56

Is it true that Greco - the head of the Teacher's union makes six figures and he has no other job other than running the JCEA? No classroom responsibilities?


Yes. As part of the previous contract (and likely part of the next,) Mr. Greco is paid with tax dollars by the Jersey City Board of Education to head the union with no classroom responsibilities.

The teachers are the ones getting the worst from this funny business but it affects all other stakeholders negatively, as well.

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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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jcdd wrote:
Fairway or Wegman's would be the best choice. Forget Whole Foods.


You'll have rainbow unicorns swimming across the Hudson ferrying JC commuters for free before that will happen.

Just exactly where is Wegman's going to drop a 140,000 square foot store with adequate parking in downtown? Do you have any idea of how many tractor trailers would be driving downtown streets to fill a store that size?

Posted on: Today 11:44
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Re: What's going there?
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craigslistdiva wrote:
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JCishome wrote:
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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...


Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.


This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.


"we" being non crack/meth addicts that live in houses, apts etc and not abandoned shopping carts that have families and pay taxes and are generally decent people and don't want to live with this sort of "filth".

If you think differently, there's something wrong with you.

JC still has remnants of it's drug/gang obsessed past that can be seen on Newark Ave. That's what needs to get cleaned up. Half the places on Newark don't even look like they make a sale a day; are they fronts for something?

Anyways, as Seagull mentioned, let's keep thread to it's original purpose.


I'm not sure how you tie JC Martin to a "gang-obsessed past", but whatever. As I said, you're welcome to open a generally decent store of your own in its place.

Fine, let's re-route this thread to its intent.

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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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Quote:

ianmac47 wrote:
If you aren't happy with teacher performance, paying less is not going to help. That's like going to McDonald's and being disappointed that the food isn't as good as a high end steak house. Its like saying, "I don't want to pay more than $5,000 for a car, but I want it to last for 100,000 miles, get great fuel efficiency, and need little repair work." Its like going skydiving and choosing your parachute based on which one costs the least amount of money. Its like ordering a PBR and then getting angry it tastes like water.

If you want better teachers, you need to pay them more. You want smarter teachers, you need to pay them more. You want better educated teachers, you ned to pay them more. Why would anyone with half a brain and masters degree come to work in a shitty government building, deal with the administrative bullshit, nasty parents, nasty students, work from 7 in the morning until 5 at night, and earn a fraction of what they could make in a professional career?


Most want to well compensate great teachers. And have the flexibility to fire lousy teachers. The NJEA is the roadblock to those ends. Once a teacher gets tenure it's almost impossible to fire them for being bad teachers. As I recall the number of teachers fired for poor performance (and by that I mean as teachers, not counting ones that come in stoned or drunk, or are having sex with students, or have other criminal issues) is so tiny that it would be laughable if it wasn't so bad for the kids.

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Re: Jersey City teachers union seeks 19% pay hike over 3 years, sources say
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If you aren't happy with teacher performance, paying less is not going to help. That's like going to McDonald's and being disappointed that the food isn't as good as a high end steak house. Its like saying, "I don't want to pay more than $5,000 for a car, but I want it to last for 100,000 miles, get great fuel efficiency, and need little repair work." Its like going skydiving and choosing your parachute based on which one costs the least amount of money. Its like ordering a PBR and then getting angry it tastes like water.

If you want better teachers, you need to pay them more. You want smarter teachers, you need to pay them more. You want better educated teachers, you ned to pay them more. Why would anyone with half a brain and masters degree come to work in a shitty government building, deal with the administrative bullshit, nasty parents, nasty students, work from 7 in the morning until 5 at night, and earn a fraction of what they could make in a professional career?

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Re: What's going there?
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JCishome wrote:
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craigslistdiva wrote:
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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...


Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.


This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.


"we" being non crack/meth addicts that live in houses, apts etc and not abandoned shopping carts that have families and pay taxes and are generally decent people and don't want to live with this sort of "filth".

If you think differently, there's something wrong with you.

JC still has remnants of it's drug/gang obsessed past that can be seen on Newark Ave. That's what needs to get cleaned up. Half the places on Newark don't even look like they make a sale a day; are they fronts for something?

Anyways, as Seagull mentioned, let's keep thread to it's original purpose.

Posted on: Today 11:24
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Fairway or Wegman's would be the best choice. Forget Whole Foods.

Posted on: Today 11:24
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Re: What's going there?
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Frank_M wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:

Well, he [Frank] seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?


Explain the “new diverse demographics” in deference to the increasing number of people who share nearly indistinguishable value systems. Thanks to the very high cost of living among other factors, it’s more common that the best plan for success among people moving to downtown Jersey City lies in “going with the program.” Unfortunately, that behavior also tends to inhibit the process of self-individuation, which doesn’t make for a very diverse group of people at all.

Diversity certainly does exist in this part of town, but it’s a receding phenomenon.


Your view of "diversity" is remarkably narrow. Essentially, you are saying the only kind of diversity that "counts" is income diversity. You also apply many assumptions and generalizations to a broad group of incoming people solely due to the high cost of living here.

When I look around downtown, I see diversity of age, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, ancestry, and (likely) religion. It's probably one of the more diverse areas around. And yes, this diversity is continuing.

Posted on: Today 11:19
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Re: Pedestrian and bicycle bridge from Jersey City to Manhattan?
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hero69 wrote:
dreamin' ain't never hurt no one


Utterly untrue. Haven't you ever heard of "opportunity cost"? It's the time wasted doing or thinking about something impractical when it could have been spent better. Classic example familiar to us all in the NYC area is the middle aged actor still waiting tables because "the dream" interfered with actually acquiring some more salable skills. The odds were always small, a tiny fraction of Equity actors make a living at it. I know plenty of people told as kids to "follow your dream" that wonder what the hell those adults were thinking.



The idea that there are opportunity costs is very legitimate. It wouldn't seem to apply here unless you can think of an actual transportation project that is being given less attention because the pedestrian bridge is taking away time, money and effort.

The only opportunity cost I see with this project is that people lose the opportunity to spend the time bitching about dollar stores or parking on other threads.


I suppose, if it's just limited to this thread. But you never know about the stupid ideas that some people push to the top. I'd rather see public discourse about real things that could be done in this direction, like a paradigm shift in the way we do ferries to make them a real viable economic option. I paddled past the St George ferry terminal on Sunday, those ferries are HUGE, run regularly, and are free. Think on that...

Posted on: Today 11:17
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Re: What's going there?
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JCMan8 wrote:
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WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
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Frank_M wrote:
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craigslistdiva wrote:
Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.


The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.


If you want more of your narrow conception of "diversity," feel free to move to Newark.


Ah, the "love it or leave it" argument. People still use this, I guess.


Well, he seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?

I suggested a practical, feasible solution to his "problem."


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/False_dilemma

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Re: What's going there?
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Home away from home
Home away from home


Quote:

JCMan8 wrote:

Well, he [Frank] seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?


Explain the “new diverse demographics” in deference to the increasing number of people who share nearly indistinguishable value systems. Thanks to the very high cost of living among other factors, it’s more common that the best plan for success among people moving to downtown Jersey City lies in “going with the program.” Unfortunately, that behavior also tends to inhibit the process of self-individuation, which doesn’t make for a very diverse group of people at all.

Diversity certainly does exist in this part of town, but it’s a receding phenomenon.

Posted on: Today 10:53
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Re: What's going there?
#29
Home away from home
Home away from home


Let's keep this thread on track and not derail it. Please keep it contained to inquiries about new businesses.

Posted on: Today 10:49
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Re: What's going there?
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Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away


I got a practical, feasible solution for you.
It involves a shallow grave.

Posted on: Today 10:44
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