Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)

Posted by newbie100 on 2018/11/8 21:34:14
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JCGuys wrote:

Not only should fares rise, but they should add a peak-hour premium to whatever is needed to reduce overcrowding and to encourage folks to go a half hour earlier or later. Unpopular opinion, but PATH is a fraction of the costs associated with driving.



Hell NO.... PATH is only 1/3 of my three zone commute. I first have to get to PATH, then PATH into the City, and then the NYC Subway to uptown Manhattan. I'm not the only one with a 3 zone commute. We don't need more highways clogging the the two tunnels and the GW Bridge into NYC. We need more public subsidies for mass transit to help alleviate traffic conditions all over the tri-state commuting area.


New Jersey is broke and taxes are already sky high. Were are we going to find additional subsidies? I hate it that no one is realistic when it comes to public finance. And to be honest, fares could triple on all three of your segments and I bet it will still be cheaper than driving when considering cost of tolls and parking in NYC. Plus it's going to be physically impossible to add any more cars to the tunnels, so I don't see that as a viable alternative either.

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And last, but water under the proverbial bridge, we should not have wasted billions on WTC PATH station. We PATH riders pay a premium for that debacle every day.


Agreed 1000% with you here - The Oculus was a terrible business decision $4 billion wasted for a shiity mall with poor egress. The port authority should have just sold the air rights for the site to the highest bidder and use the funds for trans-Hudson rail improvements. I wish NYC would bring the 7 line into New Jersey with a stop in Hudson County.


I cant believe people are still so butt hurt about the Oculus. Let it go. We tried that once where we didnt give a shit about commuters and put a massive building over what couldve been a beautiful train station. Its called Penn Station. You already got one. So let the rest of us finally have a nice station again like how it was in the heyday of travel.

I wouldn't mind the mall and the expense of building if it weren't for the fact that it sucks as a commuter. I am sure people have said this before but repeating it to vent.
* the small, hard to read/find signs for the subways, PATH train platform.
* the lack of proper seating and signage on the PATH train platforms. Would it have killed the architect to put proper seats at the platforms that enough people could sit comfortable while waiting for the trains at nights or weekends?
* the long, circuitous routes to get from where you are to the platforms. esp. from outside to the PATH platforms.
* the long walk from PATH to the E train platform.

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Also, the subsidies from that mall help cover the costs of the station, and not to mention, literally every infrastructure project costs $4 billion now. Thats a problem with how we build, not with the PATH specifically.

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