Re: Come to City Hall this upcoming Wednesday to promote electric vehicle charging in JC #EVinJC

Posted by bodhipooh on 2017/8/7 8:33:03
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I am curious to know who pays for all these "free" charging stations?


Who said anything about free charging stations? The stations are "for pay". Rates are based on kWh.


So the public charging stations are similar to traditional gas stations? The driver uses a credit card/pays cash for an electric hookup.

So why wouldn't PSEG or even electric car manufacturers want in on this market... product distribution is already in place?



Why aren't PSEG and other entities jumping on this? Short sightedness... The local NA (PADNA) actually came out against the dedicated EV parking, because "the demand is not there". My argument is that that having dedicated EV parking ahead of demand is exactly how you get people to start adopting these technologies. Waiting for demand is silly. A few years ago, I mulled getting a Tesla Model S, but opted against it because there was no easy way to get it charged. Sadly, a few months after that decision, I moved into The ArtHouse, and the EV parking is right in front and it would have been a perfect solution. I honestly feel that installing and making available charging stations is the perfect way to encourage people to buy and use electric vehicles. During "peak" hours, the charging station is essentially a meter (you pay for each hour you are connected, regardless of energy usage) and during off peak hours you pay for the energy you consume to charge your vehicle.


I used to pickup electric Zip Cars there... great for neighborhood use, then they pulled them and left us with more high priced ridiculous suvs/minivans. The market issue you described is exactly where "cable tv" was 35 years ago. The providers only installed in dense populated neighborhoods for a quicker ROI on limited distribution network.

In this case distribution is there, demographics are right, seems logical for PSEG to give it a try. Am I right in assuming that there is a universal electric outlet common to the different electric model manufacturers?



Yes, you are correct: there is an established standard for the EV charging connector. It is the J1772. Tesla uses a different plug connector, but each vehicle purchase includes an adapter that can be used to charge from a J1772 station.

After ZipCar went away, a new company was brought in: Maven. It is a GM-backed business. Ford is looking to emulate the program. Almost every major car manufacturer is either funding or actively working in schemes or programs to implement a "vehicle as a service" paradigm: you will either pay a monthly membership to have access to a vehicle, or you will pay for rides (similar to Uber/Lyft) and some manufacturers are really investing in self-driving solutions.

Fighting against EV parking is short sighted and trying to go against the current. Sadly, the city government went along with what the NA suggested/wanted.

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