Re: Jersey City aims to increase diversity of city contractors

Posted by Pebble on 2015/10/23 16:17:36

MDM wrote:

Pebble wrote:

Of course there is...
Bureau of Labor Statistics. Check the numbers on salaries by race as well.

Asians (in particular those originating from North East parts of Asia like Korea & Japan) generally have lower unemployment rates, higher salaries, and lower rates of violent crime than Whites. Is this a sign of discrimination against White people?

Or are you considering 'equality' to be equality in outcomes?

Do you think black people are earning less because they deserve less?


caj11 wrote:
What happens if a contractor is partnership where one partner is white and the other partner is a minority? Is it a "minority-owned" contractor then? How about three partners, with 2 of them white and 1 of them a minority? How is it classified then?

Sorry, I just hate this concept. If the contractor's work is good, they get paid and hired for other city contracts. Their ethnicity should be irrelevant. Only their work quality and what they charge should matter. This policy was a total disaster in Washington, DC some years ago when then-mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly required that 50% of all city contract funds go to minority-owned contractors, and she even said that enriching the minorities was a higher priority than the quality of work done for the city.

If your work is good, then no special preferences should be necessary.

Yes, in a fair and equitable society, this would be correct. However, it never has been and lots of stereotypes persisted.

One example from years ago was that women could not play the violin. It was thought that they couldn’t play classical music. Routinely they would be routinely turned down for orchestra jobs. Ultimately, it took for someone to wear a blindfold while listening to an audition before women started to break through in the industry. Now, we don’t really think about it much.

Similar situations persisted in football. The standard set was that the black players couldn’t be quarterback. Then they couldn’t be head coaches. If the NFL didn’t institute a policy about interviewing minorities, many of those hired may never have been looked at.

Considering all of the examples that are pervasive in American society, I fail to understand why people get upset over the idea that minorities might actually be given a chance to show how good many of them can be at their craft.

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